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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #90 on: 15 April 2024, 05:55:58 »
It's far from terrible for what you get in return.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #91 on: 15 April 2024, 10:09:18 »
I'm not sure that I like the roles that have been defined by the company, for Mechs and other things.

I would say that the Hel / Loki Mk 2 is essentially a fire support mech vs brawler (on get close range).  It's armor while not entirely as bad as the original version, it's certainly wouldn't last long in the brawl. At least to me anyways, however during the less Mechs era of the Dark Age. There pressing need to have star mates which could take up support such as Battle Armor and certainly Combat Vehicles designed get closer to shield less armored units.

Give the design was created with combined arms in mind, give clickytech game it came from was all that And Hell's Horses built thing initially exactly like that . I would think that could be a canon reason why it's not so armored and more about the guns.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #92 on: 16 April 2024, 00:02:54 »
I think the mech to compare the Hel to isn't the Loki, but the Timber Wolf.

It doesn't have the speed of a Timbie
It doesn't have the durability of a Timbie, and the cockpit means it has even less than it looks like.

It sure does have the throw weight of a timbie, for far less BV.

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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #93 on: 16 April 2024, 00:06:12 »
If there was a mech I was going to compare the Sloki to, it's the Nova Cat.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #94 on: 16 April 2024, 09:30:07 »
I think the mech to compare the Hel to isn't the Loki, but the Timber Wolf.

It doesn't have the speed of a Timbie
It doesn't have the durability of a Timbie, and the cockpit means it has even less than it looks like.

It sure does have the throw weight of a timbie, for far less BV.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #95 on: 16 April 2024, 09:32:55 »
Referring to the fact that statistically, a Lokitoo is gonna spend at least a bit more time flat on the ground than a Timby.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #96 on: 16 April 2024, 11:41:22 »
The Loki II has a small cockpit, which means it suffers a  pentalty to PSRs, which means it falls easier/more often.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #97 on: 16 April 2024, 11:50:52 »
The enemy cannot force you to take a PSR if you disable his mech.

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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #98 on: 16 April 2024, 13:38:19 »
well yeah the Loki has long subscribed to the view that the best defense is a good offense. the Loki II likewise does so
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #99 on: 17 April 2024, 18:27:51 »
I just realized something: the Loki II A is a Clan version of the Defiance.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #100 on: 17 April 2024, 18:40:00 »
I was going to say a 65 ton Marauder but your right.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #101 on: 18 April 2024, 13:48:53 »
If there was a mech I was going to compare the Sloki to, it's the Nova Cat.

It does come out looking pretty reasonable in that comparison, despite the cockpit issue. I'd like to throw in the Night Gyr, which I suspect it's a replacement for (I don't believe the Gyr is being produced anymore, at least in the Inner Sphere), but that ten tons does give the Gyr some serious advantages, the fixed jump jets aside.
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Re: ’Mech of the Week TRO 3145 Special: Loki Mk II (Hel)
« Reply #102 on: 18 April 2024, 15:19:23 »
According to Rec Guide 22, the Night Gyr was put back into production in 3144 with a retooled production line on Alyina.
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