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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #90 on: 13 July 2021, 01:59:06 »
CSA is known for being practical. I’d say if any clan had a chance of doing the smart thing at this point, it would be CSA.

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #91 on: 13 July 2021, 02:22:08 »
They were also at the forefront of anti-Tainted zealotry so it could go either way.

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #92 on: 13 July 2021, 02:27:15 »
CSA seemed to buy hard into the Reaving but also did extremely well out of it — coincidence? Or another example of CSA practicality?

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« Reply #93 on: 13 July 2021, 03:16:50 »
Zealots in terms of ideology but with practical execution, I'd say.

The dealings with the Horses are a good example of both: they were prepared to compromise enough to work with the Horses to crush the Burrock force, but they kept the Horses, now an IS Clan, very much at arm's length. The Adder Warriors who participated were considered Tainted even by that trivial contact with the IS (as in literally just setting foot on a single planet, lol) and they were basically cast out of the Clan to be absorbed by the Horses.

In terms of the WoR as a whole, the Adders were opportunistic in the years leading up to it. As part of the Snake Alliance they went all in on the Ravens to grab weakly defended enclaves but sat the Shark campaign out because the Sharks were pretty strong. As a result they had a mostly fresh touman and large amount of territory when everything turned to chaos in 3072. Being strong and having proper leadership (unlike say the Mandrills or the left behind Hellion and Horse garrisons) meant the Adders were in the best position to weather the storm out of all the Clans. Nobody really came out of the Wars or Reaving ahead, they all took huge casualties and had whole planets depopulated, but the Adders did the least badly of the surviving Homeworld Clans by a long way.

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #94 on: 13 July 2021, 03:17:15 »
They were also at the forefront of anti-Tainted zealotry so it could go either way.

CSA seemed to buy hard into the Reaving but also did extremely well out of it — coincidence? Or another example of CSA practicality?

During the Wars of Reaving itself I'd say practicality, or maybe a great practice of doublethinking themselves into believing and not believing in it depending on a given situation. They let the true zealots in Clan Steel Viper lead the charge and spearhead the more controversial initiatives, and then the tamer-seeming Adders were able to build off that their position of dominance.

Post-WOR, it seems with the rise of the Aggressors that the younger generation were truly buying into the 'Taint' nonsense, enough that their elders got worried.
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #95 on: 19 February 2023, 07:58:13 »
Do we have a full list of what warships from clan burrock were claimed after the absorption war?

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #96 on: 20 February 2023, 12:50:20 »
No.
IIRC 13 warships were claimed, but which exactly we do not know.

Known is the Constantineau (Liberator-class). We will have to wait till Brush Wars: Absorption War will be published,
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #97 on: 20 February 2023, 13:27:50 »
No.
IIRC 13 warships were claimed, but which exactly we do not know.

Known is the Constantineau (Liberator-class). We will have to wait till Brush Wars: Absorption War will be published,

Nice! Do we have an ETA on the absorption book?

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #98 on: 20 February 2023, 14:02:30 »
No, so far a publication date not yet been communicated.

BTW if I can make an educated guess, I think the Lola III destroyer Yodan might have been an Clan Burrock vessel. This might explain how easy the "Dark Burrocks" could captured this vessel in the WoR.
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #99 on: 20 February 2023, 20:19:07 »
Known is the Constantineau (Liberator-class). We will have to wait till Brush Wars: Absorption War will be published,

The what? Where was this announced?
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« Reply #100 on: 21 February 2023, 14:47:33 »
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #102 on: 22 February 2023, 12:01:12 »
I look really forward to.
If I might dream, a sourcebook like Battle of Tukkayyid about the whole Burrock-Blood Spirit and Star Adder-Blood Spirit conflict would be fantastic,
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« Reply #103 on: 22 February 2023, 14:26:01 »
I look really forward to.
If I might dream, a sourcebook like Battle of Tukkayyid about the whole Burrock-Blood Spirit and Star Adder-Blood Spirit conflict would be fantastic,

Make it so! I am really interested in learning more about the lost ships of the spirit fleet and their beta galaxy

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #104 on: 22 February 2023, 20:27:16 »
It's on the Coming Releases page: https://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/

Holy damn. Never would I have thought they'd give that conflict the sourcebook treatment. Has there been any movement on this product (considering some the 'upcoming releases' on that page have in fact, released, a while ago)? Man, this gives me new hope they'll revisit Luthien and Op. Dragonslayer.

I too am very excited. More info on the fallen Spirit Galaxies, the Burrocks, and the battles themselves that changed the Toumans of all three participating Clans... I can't wait!
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"You guys are facing a freaking Shadow Division! These guys have strict policies against playing fair!"

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #105 on: 24 February 2023, 13:52:46 »
Getting more info about the grand invasion of the Spirit Homeworld of York with its battles in space and on ground ... this would make some gret sories and battles ... of which Battletech has been made.
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #106 on: 18 March 2023, 14:20:32 »
Here is a great Star Adder Mech drawning by Matt Plog:

https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog/art/Comm-New-Snake-Skin-932183927
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« Reply #107 on: 18 March 2023, 15:11:49 »
Here is a great Star Adder Mech drawning by Matt Plog:

https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog/art/Comm-New-Snake-Skin-932183927

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« Reply #108 on: 18 March 2023, 16:22:35 »
It's on the Coming Releases page: https://bg.battletech.com/books/upcoming-releases/

it also notes that the series was intended to get it's first release in 2022, it's 2023 now so... best to temper that hype.
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« Reply #109 on: 18 March 2023, 16:50:36 »
Here is a great Star Adder Mech drawning by Matt Plog:

https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog/art/Comm-New-Snake-Skin-932183927
That's actually one of my designs I had Matt do for the Aries TRO!

That's a very sleek design, but man do I love the color placement in that pic, the small red highlights that don't contrast too sharply against the Adder blue/black combo. I've had trouble with 'too much red' painting the Gamma scheme before, and that makes me want to give it another attempt.
"Well, I do, Marcus, and rule number one of the MAC has always been that the man with the plan leads. If we get shot up, I'm the first one to get my ticket punched. There are no flags in the MAC."
"And there never will be," Barton said, nodding his head in agreement.

"You guys are facing a freaking Shadow Division! These guys have strict policies against playing fair!"

"I don’t care. Kill them. I planned the defense so I know it will work. If they claim otherwise, they’re cowards. Any step back is a betrayal of me, and saying they don’t have enough men is just an excuse for incompetence and disloyalty. Tell the Krypteia to do it if you’re too soft but get it done." -Emperor Stefan Ukris Amaris I

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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #110 on: 18 March 2023, 18:45:21 »
That's a very sleek design, but man do I love the color placement in that pic, the small red highlights that don't contrast too sharply against the Adder blue/black combo. I've had trouble with 'too much red' painting the Gamma scheme before, and that makes me want to give it another attempt.

Yeah I agree...Matt does do a great job of that one!
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« Reply #111 on: 19 March 2023, 07:21:29 »
That's actually one of my designs I had Matt do for the Aries TRO!
And it is a great efficient heavy OmniMech  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #112 on: 19 March 2023, 07:25:34 »
it also notes that the series was intended to get it's first release in 2022, it's 2023 now so... best to temper that hype.
But never forget to keep the fire burn  ;)

Probably they have had to postpone the new Brush Wars serie due other more important projects and missing manpower.
Wonder who is going to write the Burrock Absorption. Cubby? Would like to factcheck this, as in good old times.
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #113 on: 19 March 2023, 17:30:54 »
Cubby also said a few months back that the Brush Wars series would be acconpanied by other, smaller releases on the same conflict, like Touring the Stars or Spotlight on. Similar to how Hanseatic Crusade was supported.
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« Reply #114 on: 21 March 2023, 10:55:20 »
Cubby also said a few months back that the Brush Wars series would be acconpanied by other, smaller releases on the same conflict, like Touring the Stars or Spotlight on. Similar to how Hanseatic Crusade was supported.
A Touring the Stars: York, Spotlight on Blood Spirit Alpha Galaxy, Spotlight on Adder Quasar Keshik would be great add-ons.
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« Reply #115 on: 29 March 2023, 11:48:32 »
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #116 on: 29 March 2023, 19:42:54 »
it also notes that the series was intended to get it's first release in 2022, it's 2023 now so... best to temper that hype.

It's still in active development.
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« Reply #117 on: 29 March 2023, 19:44:21 »
A Touring the Stars: York, Spotlight on Blood Spirit Alpha Galaxy, Spotlight on Adder Quasar Keshik would be great add-ons.

I have to check my production schedule, but IIRC it's going to be two TtS and four SOs to accompany the Brush Wars product. Of course, don't hold me to it. I'd have to confirm and even then, don't hold me to it.
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #118 on: 30 March 2023, 05:07:36 »
I have to check my production schedule, but IIRC it's going to be two TtS and four SOs to accompany the Brush Wars product. Of course, don't hold me to it. I'd have to confirm and even then, don't hold me to it.
This would be simply great  :thumbsup:
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Re: Hibernaculum: (Vacation) Home of Clan Star Adder
« Reply #119 on: 19 April 2023, 10:20:10 »
What do you think, how did the Burrock adoptees change their new Clan?

Only militarily? Due inclusion of more light and medium fast Mechs. And more battle armour.

Social? As far as we know the Adders did not get more lazy and liberal as the Burrocks were.
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