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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #60 on: 26 January 2011, 10:21:22 »
Wait, they actually gave us the primitive variants? SWEET! [rockon]

RS 3085u does everything - except trim your toenails ;)
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #61 on: 26 January 2011, 10:23:32 »
Or give me my WiGEs.  S'what I get for going with the .0 release.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #62 on: 26 January 2011, 10:27:10 »
Or give me my WiGEs.  S'what I get for going with the .0 release.

They will come :)
But as far as I know it was either put them into an update or wait with the whole release. To wait with the release for such few units doesn't make much sense, if you can put them in a free update later.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #63 on: 26 January 2011, 10:48:19 »
That's what Welshman said earlier, yeah, and the update was kind of what I was hinting at with the .0 comment.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #64 on: 26 January 2011, 10:50:36 »
Ah, okay. Didn't know if you had seen that one. And it is always good to write it down, so people who got in here later and didn't read everything from the beginning find out about it, too :)
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #65 on: 26 January 2011, 10:54:35 »
when they put the missing units in will they do the sheet for the Erinyes or is just to over powered?
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #66 on: 26 January 2011, 11:05:13 »
They might when they get around to putting in the Newgrange sheet, but the Erinyes isn't overpowered at all.  Mass drivers are actually not a terribly useful weapon for space engagements.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #67 on: 26 January 2011, 11:15:01 »
True...but they really rule at terrorizing the civilian population.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #68 on: 26 January 2011, 11:20:50 »
they released RS 3085U cutting edge... uh oh.  i hear the whips cracking already.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #69 on: 26 January 2011, 11:30:51 »
The MUL team just can't catch a break, can you guys?

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #70 on: 26 January 2011, 11:32:32 »
The MUL team just can't catch a break, can you guys?

I got cookies ;)

But Record Sheets are not created by the MUL team, but the Record Sheet team. Some of them are part of the MUL team, too, but not everyone.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #71 on: 26 January 2011, 11:34:23 »
*shakes head*  The sheets weren't what I was thinking about.  I was talking about the need to possibly add more information into the thing.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #72 on: 26 January 2011, 11:36:45 »
Ah, that... I think we will do that for the next 25 years anyway. At least with a TRO and RS PDF we have structured data. Makes things a bit easier :)
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #73 on: 26 January 2011, 13:09:42 »
The MUL team just can't catch a break, can you guys?

I got cookies ;)

But Record Sheets are not created by the MUL team, but the Record Sheet team. Some of them are part of the MUL team, too, but not everyone.

I was refering to the fact that someone suggested the MUL would be released after certain Record Sheets came out..  Not a good time for my computer to be waiting for a replacement video card. *sighs*
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #74 on: 26 January 2011, 13:14:05 »
I was refering to the fact that someone suggested the MUL would be released after certain Record Sheets came out..  Not a good time for my computer to be waiting for a replacement video card. *sighs*

I just got a new laptop. Took me roughly 24 hours to get the thing running the way I want it to. Granted, I bombed the whole thing, set it up from scratch and then needed lots of time encrypting the whole thing, but I know how it is. It happens, it takes time, it gets on your nerves.
I think everyone can live with the MUL being a bit later than planed.
Better it is late and clean then if you have the same problem I have with some files being in strange places they should not be.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #75 on: 26 January 2011, 13:47:01 »
And the Mjolinor just makes me smile. I don't know why but I desperately want to see it race across the board and head cap someone with a 12 point 'hammer' blow.

A mace is too much risky to use. If only it use punch it location then i'll reconsider using it.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #76 on: 26 January 2011, 13:49:47 »
You can 'aim' upwards, like you do with a hatchet.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #77 on: 26 January 2011, 13:54:44 »
You can 'aim' upwards, like you do with a hatchet.

That +4 to hit modifier hurts like heck, though.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #78 on: 26 January 2011, 14:07:48 »
You can 'aim' upwards, like you do with a hatchet.

That +4 to hit modifier hurts like heck, though.

Hurts like heck when you hit, too.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #79 on: 26 January 2011, 14:15:26 »
I just got a new laptop. Took me roughly 24 hours to get the thing running the way I want it to. Granted, I bombed the whole thing, set it up from scratch and then needed lots of time encrypting the whole thing, but I know how it is. It happens, it takes time, it gets on your nerves.
I think everyone can live with the MUL being a bit later than planed.
Better it is late and clean then if you have the same problem I have with some files being in strange places they should not be.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #80 on: 26 January 2011, 14:19:18 »
You don't have to have no life to be recruited into the MUL. But I certainly look for people with no lives, they work so hard and for cookies no less.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #81 on: 26 January 2011, 14:48:30 »
That +4 to hit modifier hurts like heck, though.

Hurts like heck when you hit, too.

I'm not arguing that it doesn't but I'd prefer to land the hit on the torso than miss the head.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #82 on: 26 January 2011, 15:20:37 »
Has it even been confirmed what Hit Location chart the Mace uses? IIRC the actual writeup for the weapon is rather vague. I had a Rules question in for it back when the Mjolnir popped up in the Fan Articles section, but I don't believe it ever got answered.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #83 on: 26 January 2011, 15:23:46 »
Just ask it again. With the rules questions forums cleaned up, it should be easier to get an answer. Can't promise anything, though.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #84 on: 26 January 2011, 15:46:29 »
Rulling about the mace from tactical operations

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Rules Level: Advanced
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Game Rules: The Mace attacks as a Physical Weapon Attack with a +1 to-hit modifier, but may use the Hatchet’s To-Hit Location Table
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #85 on: 26 January 2011, 18:15:56 »
Given that you'd be rolling with a net +5 penalty if you went with the punch chart, it's something you'd only want to do if you faced a target that was shut down or unconscious.  Any other time, you're looking at some outrageous hit modifiers.  Let's see, a Mjolnir piloted by an average pilot runs and attacks a target with a +3 movement modifier- that's 5+2(running)+3(TMM)+1(Mace)=11+ to actually connect.  Ouch!

Obviously, most people will be putting a really good pilot on a mech like a Mjolnir, but it's still not something that you're going to want to go swinging wildly around, especially with the penalty for missing.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #86 on: 26 January 2011, 18:19:43 »
Obviously, most people will be putting a really good pilot on a mech like a Mjolnir, but it's still not something that you're going to want to go swinging wildly around, especially with the penalty for missing.

Since I like my quality pilots to survive, I wouldn't be.  Of course, given my views on light physical 'Mechs, I'm not likely to put a pilot in one at all.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #87 on: 26 January 2011, 18:22:55 »
Im the same way.  I would prefer my better pilots be in bigger, badder, more long ranged mechs.
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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #88 on: 26 January 2011, 18:32:57 »
I don't mind them in smaller 'Mechs, necessarily (depends on what 'Mechs we're talking about, although 25 tons is really much too light for me), but the Mjolnir is going to be a fire magnet.  Small headcappers usually are.  I have a perverse fondness for the Hollander but I'm well aware of how fast a Gauss on something that fragile is going to draw fire.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they did with the Fensalir variants.

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Re: RS 3085U The Cutting Edge
« Reply #89 on: 26 January 2011, 18:34:23 »
For light mechs I tend more towards the heavy end of that spectrum.  I prefer stuff to actually survive a few hits.
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