Author Topic: Medium Tanks (Read 14676 times)

Hptm. Streiger · « **on:** 14 June 2019, 08:41:57 »

The first tank that used "my" tracked medium chassis is finished.

Need some work at the turret (some more) and the front (not so much). The Myrmidon is heavy armored s i need to change the skirts into "full-plate" rather the current "half-plate"

Details should be adequate for printing (at least in 1:160 scale)

when i do this correctly- the chassis could be the modular base - for Scorpion, Hunter, Goblin, Vendette and Bulldog.

Daryk · « **Reply #1 on:** 14 June 2019, 08:45:56 »

Very nice! I can't wait to see more! :thumbsup:

Elmoth · « **Reply #2 on:** 14 June 2019, 08:47:05 »

Nice myrmidon there!! Congrats

marauder648 · « **Reply #3 on:** 14 June 2019, 10:27:12 »

Stunning work as always!

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 June 2019, 09:11:04 »

Available at Thingiverse - so if you have a printer... good luck ;)

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3699000

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #5 on:** 21 June 2019, 10:24:56 »

Quote from: Daryk on 14 June 2019, 08:45:56

Very nice! I can't wait to see more! :thumbsup:

I'm pretty sure you are interested in those:

(It's (still) a long way (to Tipperary, a long way) to go)

Daryk · « **Reply #6 on:** 21 June 2019, 12:53:39 »

Goblins FTW! ;D :thumbsup:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 October 2019, 10:35:47 »

Quote from: Daryk on 21 June 2019, 12:53:39

Goblins FTW! ;D :thumbsup:

Not Goblin - its a Kanaille - a completely different tank using Fuel Cells or Chemical Lasers.

marauder648 · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 October 2019, 11:28:53 »

Absolutely superb as always! That light anti-infantry tank will be pure murder!

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #9 on:** 09 October 2019, 12:13:42 »

Quote from: marauder648 on 09 October 2019, 11:28:53

Absolutely superb as always! That light anti-infantry tank will be pure murder!

I'm pretty sure its a overkill.
As usually stuff like chemical laser, Rocket Launchers and Machine Gun Arrays should be available in the IS during the succession wars.
I don't know if i should either go half-partisan or half demolisher from here.
a mobile hq, mash, bridge layer or engineering vehicle are also possible.

marauder648 · « **Reply #10 on:** 09 October 2019, 12:31:51 »

Seyla, the IS Chemical lasers might be a bit more bulky but that would be the only difference or something and yeah everything else makes sense.

Daryk · « **Reply #11 on:** 09 October 2019, 20:10:13 »

So those aren't MGs in the turret? ???

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #12 on:** 09 October 2019, 22:45:21 »

Sry, I know that I'm confusing from time to time (most) the Terminator uses 4x 12.5mm Gatlings.
The Medium Tank might use a chemical laser - because its the inly way to have ICE and a Heavy AntiTankMissile Rack. FCEs are a option but leaves to much space for SAM and Terminator

Daryk · « **Reply #13 on:** 10 October 2019, 03:49:39 »

That makes a bit more sense...

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 October 2019, 09:53:25 »

tada.... a pack of goblins is everything your militia need...

marauder648 · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 October 2019, 11:03:28 »

This is really good! I love the Gerpard one in the background on AA duty :)

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 October 2019, 11:22:21 »

Yeah the turret inspiration is based on the German Gepard and the Chinese Type 95 - although somehow I needed to get a gunner into the turret as well.
He rides quite comfortable - if you consider the cockpit of a BF-109 comfortable (this is my rough estimate for gunner and driver stations)

Daryk · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 October 2019, 16:24:46 »

Very nice... the twin SRM-6 plus 4xMG one looks very much like one Plog drew for me.

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 October 2019, 02:27:59 »

:o Just a coincidence :P 8)

no really I hate sponsons and to move the Sperrys into the turret makes sense. (there is room for 6-8 soldiers in the rear, still) - for other Goblin versions (MechDestroyer, Artillery, MASH, AssaultBreacher....I need to alter the hull - and the turret get removed

Daryk · « **Reply #19 on:** 11 October 2019, 03:39:24 »

Heh... the one I did with the 4 MGs in the turret was for the MG-variant that has a 5-ton infantry bay... ^-^

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #20 on:** 11 October 2019, 03:44:55 »

Quote from: Daryk on 11 October 2019, 03:39:24

Heh... the one I did with the 4 MGs in the turret was for the MG-variant that has a 5-ton infantry bay... ^-^

only if you pile them like sardines ;D

the assault-breacher on my list uses a larger bay.

Daryk · « **Reply #21 on:** 11 October 2019, 03:53:36 »

I drew it out in Visio once... sardines is an understatement! ;D

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #22 on:** 07 November 2019, 11:55:13 »

is a 35t Hovertank a Medium Tank as well?
I think so:

don't tell anybody that I wanted to start with a Harasser - but by accident I put a block (to substract something) where the cockpit is situated. And I though - oh that looks nice.... some time later I hade a vehicle that was larger then the start vehicle:

marauder648 · « **Reply #23 on:** 07 November 2019, 12:03:39 »

Oh wow! Those hovercraft are beautiful! Lovely clean lines whilst not looking too futurisic and instead they look very rugged and militarised.

Daryk · « **Reply #24 on:** 07 November 2019, 17:18:29 »

I'm not sure how that Harasser reloads its SRM-6s, but both hovers do look nice! :thumbsup:

Samurg · « **Reply #25 on:** 08 November 2019, 00:20:44 »

I like it :)

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #26 on:** 08 November 2019, 01:48:53 »

Quote from: Daryk on 07 November 2019, 17:18:29

I'm not sure how that Harasser reloads its SRM-6s, but both hovers do look nice! :thumbsup:

With muscle power - after the Gadfly (for a Harasser its armored) made its approach and spent its ~500kg of ammunition in the armored tubes, it disengages. Far from the line the driver put the engine in pause and the crew reload each 45kg missile.

I'm just in the concept phase for reload mechanism for - Spike SR, Javelin, LAHAT... sized missiles

Quote from: Samurg on 08 November 2019, 00:20:44

I like it :)

Thx :thumbsup:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #27 on:** 11 March 2020, 09:51:00 »

One of my redesign attempts was the Manticore, I forget about it and only started lately again, as usual I try to keep some destinct design features while dropping the stuff that might not work and result in an unbearable shot trap.

This was the first draft for the Manticore, based on a T72... however it somehow didn't have the look - so another redesign was made: the design feature is the Object490a turret:

however some people liked the first draft, so what about the most common medium tank of all: the Vedette - especialy the Vedette has almost no common design feature fiving the three existing TRO pictures:
Still very early:

I'm open for suggestions wich design elements I have to include that its more obvious a Vedette or Manticore.

marauder648 · « **Reply #28 on:** 11 March 2020, 10:23:46 »

Very sleek, love the ultra low profile turret and HUGE remote weapon system set up!

Daryk · « **Reply #29 on:** 11 March 2020, 16:31:38 »

Oddly, the Manticores look too narrow to me, and the Vedette looks wider... ???

Dave Talley · « **Reply #30 on:** 11 March 2020, 22:40:55 »

Quote from: Daryk on 07 November 2019, 17:18:29

I'm not sure how that Harasser reloads its SRM-6s, but both hovers do look nice! :thumbsup:

nah those are rocket pods with a weather seal on the front :-)

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #31 on:** 12 March 2020, 08:39:12 »

Quote from: Daryk on 11 March 2020, 16:31:38

Oddly, the Manticores look too narrow to me, and the Vedette looks wider... ???

maybe its because of the view? Anyhow I reduced the width of the main hull further to get the "pod-like" look of the Vedette.

Daryk · « **Reply #32 on:** 12 March 2020, 15:11:28 »

That looks much more like a Vedette to me! :thumbsup:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #33 on:** 13 March 2020, 08:04:55 »

Quote from: Daryk on 12 March 2020, 15:11:28

That looks much more like a Vedette to me! :thumbsup:

Thats the goal, you should see it and say - kay its a Vedette, maybe.... its somehow strange that I seldom use western vehicles as foundation.... my version of the Vedette can't hide its russian root:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #34 on:** 17 March 2020, 07:57:32 »

almost done

oh noes, I've forgotten the MachineGun.

Daryk · « **Reply #35 on:** 17 March 2020, 14:03:02 »

I only see 14 missile tubes? ???

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #36 on:** 17 March 2020, 14:16:47 »

Quote from: Daryk on 17 March 2020, 14:03:02

I only see 14 missile tubes? ???

Smoke launcher

Daryk · « **Reply #37 on:** 17 March 2020, 14:22:31 »

Ah, for the Vedette… I was thinking Manticore for some reason... :P

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #38 on:** 17 March 2020, 14:59:22 »

Quote from: Daryk on 17 March 2020, 14:22:31

Ah, for the Vedette… I was thinking Manticore for some reason... :P

Uhm, well yes I started to make the Manticore and ended with doing the Vedette, so typical for me

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #39 on:** 24 March 2020, 04:31:49 »

OK, I've done it, nothing fancy and if you have a printer you might know were to look for.
Next steps are some textures - and then some variants (RAC, UAC, LGR, LBX)

Daryk · « **Reply #40 on:** 24 March 2020, 16:56:24 »

Sweet camo! :thumbsup:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #41 on:** 26 March 2020, 04:04:42 »

Quote from: Daryk on 24 March 2020, 16:56:24

Sweet camo! :thumbsup:

guilty of loving wehrmacht camo, of course.

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #42 on:** 27 March 2020, 11:03:08 »

Starting to hammer out some variants

Daryk · « **Reply #43 on:** 27 March 2020, 17:48:23 »

Are those twin AC/2s? ???

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #44 on:** 28 March 2020, 00:34:54 »

Quote from: Daryk on 27 March 2020, 17:48:23

Are those twin AC/2s? ???

Yeah, angle is not the best.... triple barrel

Daryk · « **Reply #45 on:** 28 March 2020, 03:03:32 »

Nice! :thumbsup:

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #46 on:** 31 March 2020, 10:45:20 »

well are there any other pictures of the bombast laser? The version of the Vedette V9 from Prototypes is quite lame.

Anyhow: At the moment I look on 4 variants finished, ok almost. I think the hull front and the sides need some love, also the mount is missing some details.
Are there versions with dozerplate?
Standard

Laser

Rotary or Ultra?

LGR with SRM addition

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #47 on:** 17 October 2020, 02:56:22 »

And this version as TRO like pict:

marauder648 · « **Reply #48 on:** 22 October 2020, 03:40:10 »

Looks DAMN amazing!

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #49 on:** 27 October 2020, 13:50:42 »

what about this one

marauder648 · « **Reply #50 on:** 28 October 2020, 04:28:52 »

Very nice! SRM-4, mg and a large laser, I was thinking it was a bulldog, what is it? Its superb!

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #51 on:** 28 October 2020, 04:37:19 »

Could be a Bulldog, althoug its using a FuelCell moves 5/8 and only weight 54tons.

The crux was the missile launcher and the variants, but now turret and hull have enough space for ammo, crew, fuel and engine.
Only turret armor at the sides is thin

Hptm. Streiger · « **Reply #52 on:** 10 March 2022, 06:17:14 »

Ok, I started to redo the Goblin concept (again 3rd time) and I think it shows that I made some progress over the couple of 5 years (when I made the first in Sketchup)

Daryk · « **Reply #53 on:** 10 March 2022, 19:13:10 »

I have several variants drawn by Plog for me in my sig block... :)

Phobos · « **Reply #54 on:** 12 March 2022, 13:15:37 »

Quote from: Daryk on 10 March 2022, 19:13:10

I have several variants drawn by Plog for me in my sig block... :)

Which would that be? Can't seem to find any among your postings.

Daryk · « **Reply #55 on:** 12 March 2022, 14:12:31 »

This link here: https://bg.battletech.com/forums/combat-vehicles/the-hobgoblin-a-dirtbag-militia-design/

It's labelled "Hobgoblin (AC/20 Goblin, plus other variants and ART by Plog!)" down under "Combat Vehicle Designs".

Phobos · « **Reply #56 on:** 14 March 2022, 17:15:20 »

Thanks for pointing the way and thanks for sharing!

Daryk · « **Reply #57 on:** 14 March 2022, 17:52:21 »

You are very welcome! :)