Non-Celestial C3i mechs.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Is there a reason not to?  It's a canon variant.

[martian]

I updated the Wiki to include all the other non-Omnis in the C3i category; wondering whether to include the Omnis with a canon C3 variant (eg. Avatar OE).

W.

Good work with that Wiki. I don't dare to edit there anything because that's for people who live with BattleTech. I could spoil something.

And I agree that canon OmniMech variants should be listed there. Otherwise, everyone knows that it's possible to mount C3i computer at any OmniMech if it has room for it..

[Maelwys]

None, I am sorry. When I wrote this, I was in a hurry and mistaken Targeting Computer for C3i computer. By the way, I have wondered why ComStar produces 'Mech with C³ slave, when they actually don't field C³ networks. Probably they could buy some C³Master equipped 'Mechs from Draconis Combine, but even then...

Its actually a WoB variant. It popped up after the WoB took Terra. And yeah. No one can really say why they're producing it (not one version, but two, IIRC with standard C3). I asked the writers about it, and I seem to recall getting some little bizarre song and dance and "Well, maybe its going to WoB mercs..." When it was pointed out that the fluff specifically says these units were going to WoBM units, there wasn't much of a response :)

They also later on did it with a Banshee variant as well.

[worktroll]

As I understand things, the FWL got C3 long before they got C3i, and therefore had some C3 slaves; same thing with Blake Militia units. But yes, it's a little wierd.

And ... Locust with C3i? ??? Meep meep!

W.

[monty]

Its actually a WoB variant. It popped up after the WoB took Terra. And yeah. No one can really say why they're producing it (not one version, but two, IIRC with standard C3). I asked the writers about it, and I seem to recall getting some little bizarre song and dance and "Well, maybe its going to WoB mercs..." When it was pointed out that the fluff specifically says these units were going to WoBM units, there wasn't much of a response :)

I asked the same question about a month ago & was told that it was probably built to augment their forces of captured C3 mechs (rather than refitting the captured mechs with C3i). Personally I think that when the sheet was being created the TRO description (installed C3 for better command and control integration) was quickly read & the mech was mistakenly given c3 rather than c3i which would have fitted without the LT CASE & the reduction of the LRM15 ammo from 2 tons to 1 ton.

[Demos]

I asked the same questions in the ERRATA IIRC as the RS3055 rolled out.
My suggestion was to replace the std structure with ES, and the FF armor w/ std. So you'd gain the tonnage to keep the armor at a comparable level (one or two points difference) and upgrade the C3 to C3i.
No problems with available space and/or the description in TRO:3055U.

I got the reply that WoB also uses C3 networks. (Why they should produce two variants using C3s was apparently a secret  ???).

Nevertheless, I'm using these two modified designs in MM...

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Its actually a WoB variant. It popped up after the WoB took Terra. And yeah. No one can really say why they're producing it (not one version, but two, IIRC with standard C3). I asked the writers about it, and I seem to recall getting some little bizarre song and dance and "Well, maybe its going to WoB mercs..." When it was pointed out that the fluff specifically says these units were going to WoBM units, there wasn't much of a response :)

They also later on did it with a Banshee variant as well.

The BNC-8S was a mech that Defiance Industries was already developing when the Word captured the planet.  It wasn't a Word designed mech.

[Demos]

The BNC-8S was a mech that Defiance Industries was already developing when the Word captured the planet.  It wasn't a Word designed mech.

The TRO states only that

A variant produced by Defiance after its capture by the WoB [...]

Nothing about who developed this variant.
WoB also finished the design of the ZEUS-11T  ::)

[Maelwys]

The Zeus that god knows how many years later is still using the same ridiculous record sheet that doesn't fit the fluff and is pretty much unplayable? :)

[martian]

WoB also finished the design of the ZEUS-11T 

What Technical Readout is it from?

[JadeHellbringer]

The Zeus that god knows how many years later is still using the same ridiculous record sheet that doesn't fit the fluff and is pretty much unplayable? :)

Yep, that one. Buy a coolant truck and quit whining, silly Lyrans.  ;D

[Maelwys]

What Technical Readout is it from?

3050U

Yep, that one. Buy a coolant truck and quit whining, silly Lyrans.  ;D

Nah, they should just update the record sheets and fix the design, giving it the engines and heatsinks its supposed to have. :)

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The TRO states only thatNothing about who developed this variant.
WoB also finished the design of the ZEUS-11T  ::)

Per Milspec,. the 8S was something Defiance was already working on prior to the Blakist invasion.

[martian]

I see now. So ZEU-11T is the same machine as ZEU-10WB?

[Maelwys]

Oops. That's the one I'm talking about. Just had the designation wrong.

[Drewbacca]

Glad I did a search before I started a new thread. I am trying to put together a unit of Jihad era former Comstar mercenaries who have decided to take the fight to the Word. I can use this list. Does anyone have a good name for the unit?

[Kojak]

Glad I did a search before I started a new thread. I am trying to put together a unit of Jihad era former Comstar mercenaries who have decided to take the fight to the Word. I can use this list. Does anyone have a good name for the unit?

The Tighty Whities

[Drewbacca]

I pretty much asked for that, didn't I?

[SCC]

This MUL Search should be of help: http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Filter?Name=&HasBV=true&HasBV=false&MinTons=&MaxTons=&MinBV=&MaxBV=&MinIntro=&MaxIntro=&MinCost=&MaxCost=&HasRole=&HasBFAbility=C3i&BookAuto=&FactionAuto=

And if you want to use Sarna use THIS page: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Improved_C3_Computer

[Kojak]

How about the Holy Rollers?

[dwinter]

Can also a lot of these for Terran Supremacy mechs as well :).