Non-Celestial C3i mechs.

[willydstyle]

I'm trying to put together a C3i force without using celestials.  So far, I have the following mechs on my "for sure" list:

Phoenix Hawk 7CS
Ostscout 9CS

And the following mechs on my "maybe" list:

Crab CRB-45
Toyama 1B

I'd like to stick more with "comstar" flavor, and less with "WoB" flavor, so the Toyama is iffy. I'd like to see what other options I have, if you guys would be so kind as to help.  I prefer variants of reseen mechs, but that's not a hard restriction at all. 

[jklantern]

Luckily, I have FM Comstar right behind me.

EXT-5E Exterminator
KTO-21 Kintaro
TSN-1C Tessen

These are all definitely ComStar.

THG-12E Thug
HSR-500-D Hussar

I'm less sure on these two.

VQR-2A Vanquisher.

Definitely WoB, but you can justify as salvage.

[willydstyle]

Thanks for the reply. The Tessen looks cool, but is archived.  The rest look like poo. If I didn't care about aesthetics it would make BT a lot easier to play :D

[jklantern]

Thanks for the reply. The Tessen looks cool, but is archived.  The rest look like poo. If I didn't care about aesthetics it would make BT a lot easier to play :D

I like the way the Exterminator looks, sleek and all.  But it isn't exactly the best armed heavy out there.

[willydstyle]

I'm not a big fan of the "potato with gun ports" aesthetic that like 80% of BT mechs use.

[jklantern]

I'm not a big fan of the "potato with gun ports" aesthetic that like 80% of BT mechs use.

Part of the aesthetic of Battletech is that the robots are clunky and inelegant, as opposed to the sleek, smooth, sexiness of, say, the Gundam series.  Admittedly, I'm a fan of both.  But then, I'm a fan of potatoes in general.   :D

[willydstyle]

Part of the aesthetic of Battletech is that the robots are clunky and inelegant, as opposed to the sleek, smooth, sexiness of, say, the Gundam series.  Admittedly, I'm a fan of both.  But then, I'm a fan of potatoes in general.   :D

I'm more a fan of the "angular, functional military hardware look."

[martian]

I'm trying to put together a C3i force without using celestials.  So far, I have the following mechs on my "for sure" list:

I'd like to stick more with "comstar" flavor, and less with "WoB" flavor, so the Toyama is iffy. I'd like to see what other options I have, if you guys would be so kind as to help.  I prefer variants of reseen mechs, but that's not a hard restriction at all.

Perhaps you could check this thread:

http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php/topic,6320.msg141945.html#msg141945

[willydstyle]

Thanks a lot!

[jklantern]

You've gotten me curious now.  From an aesthetics standpoint, what's your favorite Mech?

[willydstyle]

I'm a big fan of the reseen Thunderbolt, Highlander IIC, Jenner IIC, Mad Dog, reseen MAD, Wolverine II, for some examples.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

You have good taste.

[jklantern]

You have good taste.

Indeed.  All very nice looking Mechs.  In fact, the Highlander IIC is one of the two Mechs that immediately jump into my mind when I'm thinking "military looking Mechs."*

*The other one is the Cyclops, so my taste may be questionable.

[willydstyle]

Thanks to Martian, I think I'm going to round out the force with a CRB-45 and a MAD-9W. Anyone have any ideas on good parts to use for a 9W mod, based on the artwork in 3085 for the 9W2?

[Fletch]

Admittedly, I'm a fan of both.  But then, I'm a fan of potatoes in general.   :D

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew....

[worktroll]

I'm trying to put together a C3i force without using celestials.  ...
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I'd like to stick more with "comstar" flavor, and less with "WoB" flavor, so the Toyama is iffy. I'd like to see what other options I have, if you guys would be so kind as to help.  I prefer variants of reseen mechs, but that's not a hard restriction at all.

This may help:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Improved_C3_Equipped_BattleMechs

Check each and see which configs suit your needs. I used this to build my WOB level IIs - eg. the Excalibur D1 probably won't suit your aims, but worked just fine for me.

W.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Thanks to Martian, I think I'm going to round out the force with a CRB-45 and a MAD-9W. Anyone have any ideas on good parts to use for a 9W mod, based on the artwork in 3085 for the 9W2?

Honestly?  I'd just take a standard MAD-5L and file down the guns a bit, since that's what it looks like they did in the artwork.

[martian]

This may help:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Improved_C3_Equipped_BattleMechs

Check each and see which configs suit your needs. I used this to build my WOB level IIs - eg. the Excalibur D1 probably won't suit your aims, but worked just fine for me.

W.

The list is not accurate because there are two dozens of 'Mechs missing from that list:
Avatar
Battle Cobra
Celestials
Crockett
Eidolon
Firestarter
Gladiator
Griffin
Grim Reaper
Gurkha
Helios
Hermes I
Initiate
Legacy
Lightray
Lineholder
Locust
Marauder
Marauder II
Shootist
Spartan
Toyama
Valkyrie
Viking
Wolverine

[worktroll]

Many thanks! Mind if I use that list to update Sarna - never done that sort of thing before, but why not?

W.

[mbear]

The list is not accurate because there are two dozens of 'Mechs missing from that list:
Avatar
Battle Cobra
Celestials
Crockett
Eidolon
Firestarter
Gladiator
Griffin
Grim Reaper
Gurkha
Helios
Hermes I
Initiate
Legacy
Lightray
Lineholder
Locust
Marauder
Marauder II
Shootist
Spartan
Toyama
Valkyrie
Viking
Wolverine

That's a great point. I didn't update the list itself, but did put a note on the category page that says "Any Inner Sphere OmniMech can mount an Improved C3 System." Thanks!

[Neufeld]

I lost a lot of my mech files to a hard-drive failure, but I have managed to replace the files from 3058, 3060 and partially from 3075 (no Age of War designs).
So, scanning trough what I have managed to replace gives the following non-celestial C3i mechs:

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Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OA          40 1113 RS3058Uu CW
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OB          40  895 RS3058Uu CW
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OC          40  726 RS3058Uu CW
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OD          40 1221 RS3058Uu Jihad
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OE          40  840 RS3058Uu Jihad
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OF          40 1300 RS3058Uu Jihad
Battle Cobra BTL-C-2OPrime      40  944 RS3058Uu CW
Initiate INI-04                 40  901 RS3060u  Jihad
Mongoose II MON-266             40 1085 RS3075u  CW
Buccaneer BCN-5W                55 1393 RS3060u  Jihad
Buccaneer BCN-6W                55 1121 RS3060u  Jihad
Lineholder KW2-LHW              55 1484 RS3058Uu CW
Helios HEL-6X                   60 1761 RS3060u  Jihad
Avatar AV1-OE                   70 1563 RS3058Uu CW
Excalibur EXC-D1                70 1949 RS3058Uu CW
Shootist ST-8C                  70 1528 RS3058Uu CW
Shootist ST-9C                  70 1727 RS3058Uu CW
Dragon Fire DGR-6FC             75 1858 RS3058Uu CW
Toyama TYM-1B                   75 1788 RS3060u  Jihad
Toyama TYM-1C                   75 1727 RS3060u  Jihad
Spartan SPT-N3                  80 1631 RS3058Uu CW
Emperor EMP-6M                  90 2090 RS3058Uu Jihad
Viking VKG-3W                   90 1778 RS3060u  Jihad

Remember that is a partial list and is missing 3050, 3055, 3067, 3075AoW and 3085 mechs.

[Kojak]

Just download (or open, if you already have it) the latest version of MegaMek, and do an Advanced Search for all unit types with a C3i computer. That'll give you the full list.

[ItsTehPope]

I'm trying to put together a C3i force without using celestials.  So far, I have the following mechs on my "for sure" list:

Phoenix Hawk 7CS
Ostscout 9CS

And the following mechs on my "maybe" list:

Crab CRB-45
Toyama 1B

I'd like to stick more with "comstar" flavor, and less with "WoB" flavor, so the Toyama is iffy. I'd like to see what other options I have, if you guys would be so kind as to help.  I prefer variants of reseen mechs, but that's not a hard restriction at all.

So, you're trying to be more Comstar than Word, which is cool, you're buildng C3i...does this need to be a pure 'Mech L2, and what do you want it to do?

[willydstyle]

In terms of organization, it's actually going to be a lance, as it's a Rassalhaguian force using Comstar equipment. Basically the idea is that after Comstar left, the Rassalhaguians didn't feel any particular need to stop producing mechs such as the OTT-10CS, so they formed a dedicated C3i lance.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Well, I'd say the Viking variant with the C3i is the perfect companion for that.

[jklantern]

In terms of organization, it's actually going to be a lance, as it's a Rassalhaguian force using Comstar equipment. Basically the idea is that after Comstar left, the Rassalhaguians didn't feel any particular need to stop producing mechs such as the OTT-10CS, so they formed a dedicated C3i lance.

I award thee an internet.  Go, Rasalhague!  Don't give up the awesome!

[ItsTehPope]

In terms of organization, it's actually going to be a lance, as it's a Rassalhaguian force using Comstar equipment. Basically the idea is that after Comstar left, the Rassalhaguians didn't feel any particular need to stop producing mechs such as the OTT-10CS, so they formed a dedicated C3i lance.

Hmmm.....That actually wastes you a few tons overall, but I like the fluff concept.

What do you want the lance to do?  736 Highlander, Thug, 30-Crab, 6CD Griffin, 266 Mongoose II are all solid choices. 

[worktroll]

The list is not accurate because there are two dozens of 'Mechs missing from that list:
...
Grim Reaper
...

Grim Reaper doesn't seem to have a C3i version - according to RS 3055 Upgrade Unabridged, you've got the -PR29 with no C3, and the -PR30 and -PR31 both with C3 Slaves. What version does MegaMek say has C3i, thanks?

W.

[martian]

Grim Reaper doesn't seem to have a C3i version - according to RS 3055 Upgrade Unabridged, you've got the -PR29 with no C3, and the -PR30 and -PR31 both with C3 Slaves. What version does MegaMek say has C3i, thanks?

W.

None, I am sorry. When I wrote this, I was in a hurry and mistaken Targeting Computer for C3i computer. By the way, I have wondered why ComStar produces 'Mech with C³ slave, when they actually don't field C³ networks. Probably they could buy some C³Master equipped 'Mechs from Draconis Combine, but even then...

[worktroll]

No worries. I updated the Wiki to include all the other non-Omnis in the C3i category; wondering whether to include the Omnis with a canon C3 variant (eg. Avatar OE).

W.