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Fighter Drop Tanks
« on: 26 January 2011, 10:57:03 »
I know fighters can carry 0.5 tons of fuel on hard point mounts, but which TW/TM/TO/SO book and page is that covered in? I can't find the rule anywhere (other than AT2R).
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #1 on: 26 January 2011, 12:23:07 »
StratOps, page 35. "External Fuel Tanks" is the name of the section.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #2 on: 26 January 2011, 20:35:46 »
I needed that info also .... thanks!
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #3 on: 27 January 2011, 08:17:11 »
Ah, thank you. I was looking all over for those.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #4 on: 28 January 2011, 14:17:45 »
Quote from: cray on 27 January 2011, 08:17:11
Ah, thank you. I was looking all over for those.

Now the scary thing is, didn't you write that section? Or did I? Cause I forgot it was there as well.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #5 on: 28 January 2011, 14:50:22 »
Sooo, here's a thought, but if you can have 1/2 ton external pods,  why can't we assign fuel in 1/2 ton allotments on fighters?

Maybe I don't WANT that stupid extra small laser,  maybe I'd LIKE to have a little more legs on my fighter.

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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #6 on: 28 January 2011, 15:10:54 »
Game balance, mostly. Kinda like why fractional accounting was taken out of the ground combat rules, making a ton of old vehicles... annoying to restat.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #7 on: 28 January 2011, 16:36:46 »
I don't know what the reason was, but "game balance" clearly wasn't it . . .
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #8 on: 28 January 2011, 16:44:54 »
Quote from: Hellraiser on 28 January 2011, 14:50:22
Sooo, here's a thought, but if you can have 1/2 ton external pods,  why can't we assign fuel in 1/2 ton allotments on fighters?

You can.

TechManual, version 1.2 (first CGL printing) page 186: "Regardless of unit type, fuel may only be added in full or half-ton lots."
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #9 on: 28 January 2011, 16:47:58 »
 :o Nifty!
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #10 on: 28 January 2011, 17:49:07 »
Quote from: Peter Smith on 28 January 2011, 16:44:54
You can.

TechManual, version 1.2 (first CGL printing) page 186: "Regardless of unit type, fuel may only be added in full or half-ton lots."
OH SIR,  I LOVE YOU !!!

Okay, maybe not, but thanks for the very useful bit of updated rules information  O0
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #11 on: 28 January 2011, 17:57:02 »
Quote from: Hellraiser on 28 January 2011, 17:49:07
OH SIR,  I LOVE YOU !!!

Okay, maybe not, but thanks for the very useful bit of updated rules information

I also looked at the Fanpro release, the text is in there as well.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #12 on: 28 January 2011, 18:02:15 »
Good to know, I still use HM-Aero that is based off AT2 and never noticed that change in TM.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #13 on: 28 January 2011, 18:04:20 »
This is one of those many lines where the rules say you can do something, but you'll be hard pressed to find a canon design that does.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #14 on: 28 January 2011, 20:40:19 »
No design does. Hell: I'd'a sworn we were told in TM that fighters could only add fuel in one-ton lots . . .

Something about LAMs, maybe?
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #15 on: 28 January 2011, 21:33:30 »
Quote from: Welshman on 28 January 2011, 14:17:45
Now the scary thing is, didn't you write that section? Or did I? Cause I forgot it was there as well.

No, drop tanks were something from AT2R. Not my work, though I was a peanut gallery member during its drafting.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #16 on: 30 January 2011, 20:31:03 »
Quote from: Goose on 28 January 2011, 20:40:19
No design does. Hell: I'd'a sworn we were told in TM that fighters could only add fuel in one-ton lots . . .

Something about LAMs, maybe?
Well most fighters pre-date TM so not much we can do there.
But hopefully some new ones will do a 1/2 ton slot somewhere.
I can really see it on Conventionals that don't have the ability to just add in a SL w/o a Fusion Engine or tack on some extra armor.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #17 on: 31 January 2011, 13:28:08 »
In a some what related note, where can I find the fuel capacity of battle armor and battlemech fuel tanks for use in space? No not the base amount per jump jet, how much fuel do you get when you add a extra fuel tank to these units.
I believe a battlemech gets a smiler amount of fuel per ton as a ASF dose, but I have no info on BA units.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #18 on: 31 January 2011, 14:33:34 »
Quote from: Nebfer on 31 January 2011, 13:28:08
In a some what related note, where can I find the fuel capacity of battle armor and battlemech fuel tanks for use in space? No not the base amount per jump jet, how much fuel do you get when you add a extra fuel tank to these units.
I believe a battlemech gets a smiler amount of fuel per ton as a ASF dose, but I have no info on BA units.

This was just answered on the old forums, but it was lost when Deathshadow rolled back the old forums to October.

I believe 'Mechs only get 40 points of fuel per ton, though I can't find the matching page reference.
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #19 on: 31 January 2011, 19:40:57 »
Quote from: cray on 31 January 2011, 14:33:34
This was just answered on the old forums, but it was lost when Deathshadow rolled back the old forums to October.

I believe 'Mechs only get 40 points of fuel per ton, though I can't find the matching page reference.

Pg 26/27 of SO
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Re: Fighter Drop Tanks
« Reply #20 on: 31 January 2011, 22:35:51 »
Well that answers that but what about BA fuel tanks?

And the fuel quote is pg 24/25 on my copy of SO (though it's an older copy...)

But it mentions nothing on BA, other than to see TM (pg 255), which says to look at later books for that info...
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