Author Topic: SyFy actually getting back into Sci-Fi? (The Expanse) (Read 46266 times)

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #300 on:** 27 December 2021, 03:20:58 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 26 December 2021, 21:24:52

I did like the battle between the ships in Episode 3, the spin and fire of the rail gun was awesome. The space battle scenes in the Expanse are some of the best in all of sci-fi and use zero's maneuvering, not flying around like a normal airplane dog fight and passing each other like a ship of the line.

I loved that fight I kept expecting torpedo strikes but instead the rail gun use was really cool.

The chase in the previous episode with the two ships zigging and zapping as the Rocinate maneuvered into place for boarding was cool too

garhkal · « **Reply #301 on:** 27 December 2021, 14:46:04 »

I'd love to see a deckplan for the rossie, to see how big it is, in comparison TO those torps/missiles, and where it stores them all... It can't have much more than 2 dozen...... at full capacity.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #302 on:** 27 December 2021, 15:00:04 »

This is the book version of the ship rather than the TV show, from the RPG:

~~And IIRC she carries about 12 torpedoes, it's mentioned that 6 is about half the load in Babylon's Ashes~~

Scratch that, I double checked and the the novel version of last week's battle states that 5 torpedoes is a quarter of the total payload, so 20 total.

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #303 on:** 27 December 2021, 16:20:12 »

With the railgun refitted to the hull I'd assume its magazine is part of the weapon so its anyone's guess at the number of shots it has

That said one thing about the Expanse regardless of season length they make a point at showing ships need replenished there's no magic off screen new ammo

Daryk · « **Reply #304 on:** 27 December 2021, 16:32:48 »

The image isn't showing for me... is anyone else having that problem? ???

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #305 on:** 27 December 2021, 16:39:13 »

Quote from: Daryk on 27 December 2021, 16:32:48

The image isn't showing for me... is anyone else having that problem? ???

You can find it in this article if it doesn't show: https://www.polygon.com/2020/9/21/21449127/ships-of-the-expanse-rpg-book-rocinante-deck-plan

Daryk · « **Reply #306 on:** 27 December 2021, 16:44:32 »

Thanks for the link, I can see it there! :thumbsup:

Daryk · « **Reply #307 on:** 27 December 2021, 16:49:20 »

Yikes! And now that I look at that map closely, there isn't anywhere enough auxiliary machinery (life support, anyone?)...

idea weenie · « **Reply #308 on:** 27 December 2021, 18:39:26 »

Quote from: Daryk on 27 December 2021, 16:49:20

Yikes! And now that I look at that map closely, there isn't anywhere enough auxiliary machinery (life support, anyone?)...

Not to mention what had to be removed to later fit in the railgun

garhkal · « **Reply #309 on:** 28 December 2021, 01:42:27 »

Quote from: Dragon Cat on 27 December 2021, 16:20:12

With the railgun refitted to the hull I'd assume its magazine is part of the weapon so its anyone's guess at the number of shots it has

That said one thing about the Expanse regardless of season length they make a point at showing ships need replenished there's no magic off screen new ammo

YEa, we saw it once already (S3 where they scavenged that destroyed MCR ship, rescuing those 3 martians, who Bobby helped disarm), though we didn't see them re-arm up with ammo, AFTER the battle over IO, where they drained out all their ammo for their PDC's..

I am Belch II · « **Reply #310 on:** 28 December 2021, 08:08:11 »

The deck plans from the game and the other books are not as 100% as what is on the show, but gives a great reference point. Some of the larger ships and ideas are different.
But the Expanse TV and the other writings are really close to the same.

YingJanshi · « **Reply #311 on:** 14 January 2022, 16:37:22 »

Well...that was a ride. Rather sorry its finished now...

Death Monkey · « **Reply #312 on:** 14 January 2022, 18:41:36 »

The show ended on a high note. It helped bring people together. Like bringing Admiral Ackbar, Lone Starr, Starbuck, and Sara Connor together as a sci-fi super hero squad. Hopefully the NSEA Protector crew can get past the loss of their Commander.

Garrand · « **Reply #313 on:** 14 January 2022, 23:33:47 »

That was great, but there are unresolved storylines...I sense there is going to be something after this.

Damon.

garhkal · « **Reply #314 on:** 15 January 2022, 01:41:08 »

Maybe in 5-6 years more, they will restart it, with book 7, since that supposedly is 30 YEARS LATER in time.

Cache · « **Reply #315 on:** 15 January 2022, 12:51:58 »

Quote from: Garrand on 14 January 2022, 23:33:47

That was great, but there are unresolved storylines...I sense there is going to be something after this.

They certainly left it open to something more (as they should, there's three more novels). Depends on whether they feel they can make enough money off of it.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #316 on:** 15 January 2022, 15:01:20 »

Quote from: garhkal on 15 January 2022, 01:41:08

Maybe in 5-6 years more, they will restart it, with book 7, since that supposedly is 30 YEARS LATER in time.

That's a vile lie... It's 28 years!

garhkal · « **Reply #317 on:** 15 January 2022, 16:52:27 »

What of those other books, like the ones that focused on some of the key characters back stories or side lines...

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #318 on:** 15 January 2022, 17:10:32 »

There's a bunch of short stories, many of them have been adapted into the show - Fred's backplot in series 1, the development of the Epstein Drive, Bobbie dealing with drug dealers on Mars, and the stuff on Laconia this year are all from short stories. All the stories bar the one from the RPG are getting released in a collection later in the year along with an epilogue story.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #319 on:** 15 January 2022, 19:25:28 »

All the SF references on the status board in the last episode:

K Garrity, H Ochai, and R Levine are martial arts instructors who taught Naren Shankar. Whoever did this key likely mistook K Garrity for Shannon Garrity.

Daryk · « **Reply #320 on:** 15 January 2022, 20:03:18 »

Nice work, whoever put that together! 8)

I am Belch II · « **Reply #321 on:** 16 January 2022, 13:12:20 »

That shot was pretty awesome!!
Great last episode ...some of it was a little predictable but still a great end of a show.

Triptych · « **Reply #322 on:** 26 January 2022, 09:05:32 »

We binged it over 2 days and... I thought it was okay. I felt it kinda ended with a whimper than a bang, but I guess its alright.

There is a huge cliffhanger with regards to those kids in the colony though. I thought it was a disservice to leave it unresolved.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #323 on:** 26 January 2022, 10:14:49 »

Quote from: Triptych on 26 January 2022, 09:05:32

We binged it over 2 days and... I thought it was okay. I felt it kinda ended with a whimper than a bang, but I guess its alright.

There is a huge cliffhanger with regards to those kids in the colony though. I thought it was a disservice to leave it unresolved.

They're leaving things open for a sequel. If you want to know what happens to the kids right now, they show up again in the novels.

Triptych · « **Reply #324 on:** 26 January 2022, 10:53:51 »

Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 26 January 2022, 10:14:49

They're leaving things open for a sequel. If you want to know what happens to the kids right now, they show up again in the novels.

Thats where I have a problem with this. If youre gonna end a series, then you ought to tie off all major loose ends. You shouldnt require a viewer to have to go into the books or some other medium just to clarify what was seen on TV. They shouldnt have bothered putting in that whole sequence if they couldnt end it properly.

Lorcan Nagle · « **Reply #325 on:** 26 January 2022, 14:11:39 »

Quote from: Triptych on 26 January 2022, 10:53:51

Thats where I have a problem with this. If youre gonna end a series, then you ought to tie off all major loose ends. You shouldnt require a viewer to have to go into the books or some other medium just to clarify what was seen on TV. They shouldnt have bothered putting in that whole sequence if they couldnt end it properly.

I'd argue that at this point, Cara and Xan's story isn't a major loose end. And the damage was done regarding Laconia in series 5 given they showed Coratázar there talking about the shipyards just before the Barkeith got eaten.

garhkal · « **Reply #326 on:** 26 January 2022, 15:32:32 »

Quote from: Triptych on 26 January 2022, 10:53:51

Thats where I have a problem with this. If youre gonna end a series, then you ought to tie off all major loose ends. You shouldnt require a viewer to have to go into the books or some other medium just to clarify what was seen on TV. They shouldnt have bothered putting in that whole sequence if they couldnt end it properly.

I agree. I hated it, how Stargate universe ended, as it left a lot open. If you're ending it, and KNOW that end is coming, its poor writing imo, to NOT 'wrap it up'..

I am Belch II · « **Reply #327 on:** 26 January 2022, 16:38:25 »

I think Season 6 ended pretty quick and needed at least 2 more episodes. But for some reason it was only 6.

Cache · « **Reply #328 on:** 26 January 2022, 21:37:24 »

Quote from: I am Belch II on 26 January 2022, 16:38:25

I think Season 6 ended pretty quick...

Unfortunately, a recurring theme throughout the series.

Triptych · « **Reply #329 on:** 27 January 2022, 08:47:38 »

Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 26 January 2022, 14:11:39

I'd argue that at this point, Cara and Xan's story isn't a major loose end.

Getting physically resurrected by aliens is a pretty big deal, imo. To leave that just hanging there is... baffling to me.