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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #60 on: 26 March 2016, 21:54:59 »
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Little nitpick, it's ''Mon Dieu'', not ''Mon deu''. Still great fun!  O0

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #61 on: 26 March 2016, 22:31:35 »
This was a great scene and absolutely brilliantly done, especially in how Debra dealt with the repercussions of what she did to Henri, but it does bring up a fairly important question.

Is there a difference between a redneck and a hillbilly in the 'Loonieverse?  I'm noticing that the language is a mix of Appalachian and Southern, and while some of the mannerisms are hillfolk through and through, such as Nikas_Zekeval mentioned with the Jacksonian characteristics, there are others which are very redneck in nature, such as how quickly she adopted people into her inner circle, which is not a hillbilly trait and is one of the primary differences between the two groups.

So did the two groups tend to blend together in the 'Loonieverse, or is Debra just a different type of hillfolk due to the circumstances?  I suspect that it's the circumstances that are at work here, but wanted to hear what you were thinking on the matter.

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #62 on: 26 March 2016, 22:36:30 »
"Deb, you didn't look down." she said. "Henri peed himself."


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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #63 on: 26 March 2016, 23:01:21 »
regarding this: "such events tend to create a fluidity in societal structure-who 'gets' to carry the leadership stick (and the rank that goes with it) changes immensely under those pressures, and blinding-rapid-advancement is more the norm, than the exception."

I think the story accurately reflects the historical precedence of militaries of high morale and training:
e.g. the Imperial Nopoleanic army of France, where Napoleon promoted by merit.
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« Reply #64 on: 26 March 2016, 23:56:46 »
This was a great scene and absolutely brilliantly done, especially in how Debra dealt with the repercussions of what she did to Henri, but it does bring up a fairly important question.

Is there a difference between a redneck and a hillbilly in the 'Loonieverse?  I'm noticing that the language is a mix of Appalachian and Southern, and while some of the mannerisms are hillfolk through and through, such as Nikas_Zekeval mentioned with the Jacksonian characteristics, there are others which are very redneck in nature, such as how quickly she adopted people into her inner circle, which is not a hillbilly trait and is one of the primary differences between the two groups.

So did the two groups tend to blend together in the 'Loonieverse, or is Debra just a different type of hillfolk due to the circumstances?  I suspect that it's the circumstances that are at work here, but wanted to hear what you were thinking on the matter.

Lingual and cultural drift and evolution from a similar (but not identical) cultural seed.  The original story written for the FGC 'verse showing Debbie on Tharkad was titled "Redneck"...for a reason.

however, a lot of the same sort of pressures that created the Hillbillies and such in the United STates in the 16th, 17th, 18th and most importantly 19th centuries were at work on Arluna.  (it's not a 'planet of hats' after all...at least, not before the Arluna Flu).

as our environment shapes us, so we too, shape it. both nature and nurture have their place, but choice is paramount.

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #65 on: 27 March 2016, 00:49:30 »
Kaiserslaughtern should be Kaiserslautern unless the misspelling was intentional and blamed on linguistic drift.

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #66 on: 27 March 2016, 01:10:30 »
Siemen und Kohl...

Henri twitched more than a few times as he busied himself with analyzing Deb's measurements (taken by ever-helpful Magda) and steadily, hesitantly interviewing her about her values, background, ideals of beauty, and especially, clothing choices.

"...wear et ever'where." Debra said, laying a hefty revolver on the counter.

The poor man nearly had a heart attack on the spot.

for that matter, so did Daphne.  "Debra! you're not supposed to-polite society..."

Deb glanced at Maggie, who shook her head slowly, "Debra, what Daphne means to say is, a large service pistol is un-ladylike in high society."

"But...'taint thet big!" Debra said, "It's jus' a dinky lil nine-milimeter rimmed! Ah gots the permits!"

Henri got his composure back, "Do you normally choose to wear it openly, or in a concealed state as you carried it today?" he asked, "It will influence the designs, trust me."

Debra thought hard before answering him, "Ah'd ruther have it in th' open." She said, "Lahk a warnin'."

"My pardon, Baroness, but you should seek the services of a proper engraver then." he told her, "plain, serviceable pistols are considered tres gauche among non-military nobles, and will no doubt garner less respect from your peers, as well as more suspicions from the Royal Guards.  Properly decorated and displayed, a sidearm is often viewed as being 'part of the presentation', like fine jewellery, I do have contacts that can do excellent work in the time you have before your audience...as for your ensemble...I believe silk and leather are required, with metallic accents and blue, shimmerweave highlights, possibly in browns and greens, to go with the wearing of an appropriately decorative holster and engraved arm."

He tapped on his terminal, and turned it to display his concept.  "Projects in a way that current fashions do not, your personal power while drawing attention to your femininity, the colour contrasts draw to your hair, stance, and body language, the materials shout 'dominant' mixed with a powerful 'class', the cape, of course, is Lyran blue with a black and red shimmerweave liner..and the boots-I assume you can walk in heels?"

Deb grimmaced.

Henri was in his element, "oh dear, you've never had a proper fitting pair...I must correct this...Baroness, properly crafted, properly fitted heels are no more difficult to walk in, than a good solid sensible shoe-Please take yours off so I may obtain correct measurements."

Debra sat down and let him examine her feet.

"no...no, this will never do..." he was muttering, "Two inch heels at most..." he sighed in disappointment, "Yes, two inch heels, your feet are hiker's feet, all subcutaneous scar tissue and heavy ligaments.  to make good on my prior claim, low heels are the most I can give you..."

"thet's fahn." Debra said, a bit uncomfortably.

"but I can make them work...yes...lovely calf development." 

Now she felt a bit like livestock at a district fair, as he took additional measurements with the clinical precision of a physician, even doing color swatches to match the plague scarred surface veins.

Finally, he was done.  "Magda, a robe for Dame MacAulliffe to wait in while her hair is being done, and refreshments for the ladies!" Henri barked, and headed into the back room.

Debra looked at her Companions, Maggie looking smug, Daphne looking...less smug, as a cart brought them trays of Hors'd'ouvres (little sandwiches and fruit slices), a selection of soft drinks, expensive juices, and other tasty delights, and she was seated in a chair that reclined.

"This is Eld, she will be washing and preparing your hair for the stylist, Dame MacAulliffe." Magda explained, "Later, annette will be...fixing...your fingernails and a relaxing massage for your feet will be provided by Armand-all part of our service here."

"Liz goes through thes?" Debra asked.

"Many times-her hair is naturally quite wavy, the style she chose requires it to be very straight, and her other activities are murder on fingernails and hands, so she often required a good manicurist while she was on Tharkad...not to mention, of course, the injury she gave herself with that crooked knife-it took quite a lot of creativity to repair the marring of her natural beauty in such a fashion-she once had such lovely hands. it was far worse when she came for a swimming suit...the girls had to get Armand to handle the waxing operations."

Eld, another blonde, this one petite like Daphne was, grimmaced, "Duchess Ngo  used to bite." she said, "and shouting...cursing. she became quite a handfull at times."

Debra forced herself to relax as the young woman began to wash her hair, "Mother was quite often in dread of her appointments." Eld continued, "I hope you are not like that."

"Ah'm not...ah think." Debra replied.

"You have such wonderful hair...and good scalp development for a soldier, no helmet-scars." Eld continued, "So are you a Mercenary then? with lots of exciting campaigns?"

"Whut meks y'all ask thet?" Debra inquired.

"well, the sidearm is a dead giveaway-it's big, and serviceable, a durable design but not made for appearances, Mistress Doons often brings us Mercenaries that have pledged to the Realm, your feet were another giveaway-lots of marching, running, and fighting, instead of sedentary work, your arms and legs are muscular, but it's not gymnasium muscle, and the way you intimidated Henri-only Mercenaries would be so bold as to lead off with physical threats-born nobles threaten lawsuit, or ruination first.  Born nobles also tend to prefer smaller pistols made to match their outfits, or to be fully concealed, and these split ends speak of an active lifestyle with little time or interest in leisure activity, especially the sun-fading of your outer layers."

'Annette' was a ginger about the same age as Debra's mother, with the same tight, tailored movement and model's build that Magda and Eld displayed.

"Calluses." Annette said, "you're a warrior, at least..." she sighed, "these cuticles are in terrible shape...hm, track grease traces in the third and fourth layers...tanker...no...Infantry officer-the toughening of the hands-the pattern of it."

Deb kept her mouth shut, silently marvelling at how incredibly wrong they were.

despite herself, the sanding, washing, brushing and pampering felt good.

she zoned out for a while...


"...practical length nails are a must." Annette was saying to her colleagues when Deb surfaced back.

"yes". she said, agreeing with the woman currently working on her hands.

"but we can do something to strengthen them."
"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #67 on: 27 March 2016, 03:17:55 »
somehow, this ended up out of sequence.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #68 on: 27 March 2016, 08:10:13 »
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Now she felt a bit like livestock at a district fair, as he took additional measurements with the clinical precision of a physician, even doing color swatches to match the plague scarred surface veins.

Wasn't Debbie truly immune to the Plague? I know she's stated she was never sick from it, so she shouldn't be marked.

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« Reply #69 on: 27 March 2016, 12:19:14 »
Wasn't Debbie truly immune to the Plague? I know she's stated she was never sick from it, so she shouldn't be marked.

they thought she was...and she wasn't.  I really should explain it in-story, and soon.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #70 on: 27 March 2016, 14:17:59 »
Brooks Clothier, Thakad City...

"Looking sharp, ese." Pol said with an approving nod.

"You think?" Carlos asked, striking a pose in the mirror.

"I think she'll like it." Pol told him cryptically.

Carlos almost flinched as the tailor began gathering material and making marks on it for adjustment.  "She?"

"Carlos, you don't think Debbie invited you along as her plus-one based on your military expertise, do you?" Pol asked, "I mean, you're turning into a decent field officer, but generally nobles don't dance with their field officers, or their security, and she made a point of specifically asking your father to let you come..." Pol said, leaning against a handy support post, arms crossed.  "Besides, even after she turned around proved she wasn't born with a natural immunity, you still make those googoo eyes at each other-it'd be cute, if it wasn't annoying as hell during meetings."

Carlos coloured a little, and remained silent, while Pol continued, "now, see, when you got in trouble on the ship? it wasn't the trouble I expected...I figured we'd find out you two were in the missile magazines with your clothes off, but instead, you escorted her to her cabin, then went to blow off steam, so the question is...is she blueballing you, or are you too nervous to actually ask her."

"You spend too much time with Jonas." Carlos finally said, a little flustered, "There's proper ways to do it..."

"Okay, so she makes your brains go Errrrgh and you're too anxious to say what you mean with her." Pol said, "I get that, I was nineteen not too long ago.  I remember what it was like to really dig a girl and have all those romantic notions going in my head about how it had to be just perfect...you took a good step getting her to dance, now you need to decide if you're ready to take the next step...but you should make your next move soon.  Girls don't just wait. eventually they get bored and move on."

Carlos glanced at Pol, and asked, "So what's the next step?"

"Depends on the girl." Pol told him, "they're all different, and if a man could understand how women think, he'd probably go mad." Pol said with a shrug, "but I think the best chance you've got, is being honest with her about your intent, and that requires being honest with yourself first.  what are your intentions, Carlos?"

"What do you mean?" Carlos asked, handing the jacket to the Tailor and stepping out of the pants, to hand them over as well for modification.

"Do you love her or are you in love with her-they're different, because if you love her, it's not going to go away, but if you're in love then you'll grow out of it." Pol explained, "Option three we're about two years and fourteen sick days past the point that that would make any kind of sense."

"Which is?"

"Lust." Pol said, "You know, what I was doing with that engineering chief on the Arluna-we clicked, hooked up, and she cut it off and I'm not moping because neither of us expected anything long-term from the other-I've got my responsibilities to Arluna, and she can't come home."

Carlos stood there in his underwear looking thoughtful.  "I'm not sure." He said honestly, "I mean, I know how I feel-but is it 'love' or 'in-love'? and I don't know...she drives me crazy sometimes...and I just want it to be right for her."

"Ese, you even looked at the hotties around here?" Pol asked.

"not really, no." Carlos said.

"Not even that cute blonde that's hanging around with Maggie Doons?" Pol asked, "because, you know, I've looked."

Carlos turned thoughtful, "Not really." he said.

"Alright, here's what you're going to do..." Pol said, "You're going to reach down between your legs, and pull your head out of your ass.  Lana told me Deb is totally into you, but you need to take the first step, and you need to accept the consequences if you do."

"What consequences?" Carlos asked.

"Deb's a Noble." Pol said, "Means something different than it does for a guy like me, or even a guy like you.  She 'ranks' your family, so if you're traditional, it means you'll be joining the MacAulliffes, not the other way around."

"I know how it works, Pol...'Consort' and she doesn't change her name." Carlos said.

"right.  You'd be marrying her, but you're also marrying her office.  She'll be the one that sets the terms, not you, once you go that far."

"you're already talking marriage?" Carlos asked.

"Best cases." Pol told him, "Worst cases are you seduce her, knock her up, break her heart, and I hunt you down and pull yours out through your sinuses for doing it, provided you're not man enough to provide for the baby."

"Why you, Pol? You're not even a relative."

"I'm her stand-in for her father...and maybe her older brothers." Pol told him, "Your dad pretty much treats me that way, anyhow, and he's a judge."

"So this talk..." Carlos asked.

"I'm definitely a Dad against daughters dating, but you're okay." Pol told him, "So I'll just put it simple-you have the green light to make your try for her heart, and if you abuse it, I'll rip you apart-and if I happen to fail, or die, just keep in mind that Jonas is option two for seeking vengeance for her hurt feelings-and he's an elemental."

"if you don't mind my asking, why are you first and Jonas second?" Carlos asked after a moment.

"because if it's worth fighting over, it's worth cheating to win." Pol told him, "And I'm better at cheating than he is."

"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #71 on: 27 March 2016, 14:29:53 »
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« Reply #72 on: 27 March 2016, 14:40:56 »
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« Reply #73 on: 27 March 2016, 15:04:47 »
Reminds me of the time my niece's boyfriend was over and my father and I spent his visit discussing the best way to dispose of the body.
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« Reply #74 on: 27 March 2016, 15:14:43 »
Siemen und Kohl, Tharkad City...

" ...gets over-protectiv'." Debra was answering one of Daphne's questions, "Ah swear et, hemmin' Jonas act lahk m' brothahs sumtahms."

"Well, they are your armsmen." Daphne said firmly, "It's nice to see the expectation is fulfilled."

"Et's good, sumtahms." Debra agreed, "But ah'm afraid he's gon' git too protective, it was a relief when he went off with thet eng'neer, got a few days of not havin' t'worry he'd misinterpret somethin' an' git in a faht wit' Carlos."

"Let's speak in Spanish, Deborah, your english is poor and your german is worse." Maggie stated,

"So, have you and Carlos..?" Daphne's accent in spanish was a little awkward,but understandable.

"not yet.  I thought we'd get close on the ship, but Lopez and Garcia took turns shadowing us." Debra said in a tone of frustration, "It's rude to overrule their orders, and bad for discipline. They were along to protect me, but it felt like we were being spied on the whole time."

"You need to learn to treat your bodyguard personnel like they're not there." Maggie counseled, "I don't mean like furnishings, or taking them for granted, but you're a Planetary Noble-privacy is something you'll just have to get used to not having.  Hell, as an Industrialist, I have to endure the same thing-never a moment when there isn't an employee at least within hearing to deal with a crisis, or intercept an enemy."

Debra frowned, "Like the quarantine chamber-life in a glass box." she said.

"Yes." Maggie stated, "I think Liz lives as she does, because of that.  Your obligation as a noble is to your world and your people, and then to your Liege lords up the chain of Feudal responsibility to the Archon, then to your family, and only after all of those, to yourself.  There isn't a lot of time or room in that for privacy."

"Liz told me every error will be put on public display." Debra confessed, "Every misstep will be broadcast."

"She's right." Daphne said, "Her Father chose a life in the armed forces, because it was less...uncomfortable, than going home and living under that microscope.  I got lucky-I'm like, fifth in line for the family holding, but even I've had to deal with Paperazzi and scandal-vids."

"There are two ways to handle it-the normal way, and the Elizabeth way." Maggie said, "Elizabeth chose to become intimidating to others, scary enough that when she relaxes to a more reasonable pose, the scandal-mongers back off, because there's no story."

"Her executing the regent with her own hand, or nailing those pirates up." Debra half-asked.

"yes...and the speech at the Estates General-she made a spectacle so extreme that the eyes of the world averted themselves." Maggie said, "it's a hard one, because it ruins your reputation otherwise, and destroys many of the opportunities that might otherwise be present...the normal way, is simply to accept things as they are, and work within them...half of what we do, as Nobles, is showbusiness."

"Expensive clothing, fancy cars and toys, sometimes serial affairs." Daphne counted off, "it creates a wall around yourself, so that you still have something private in your life-not a lot, but enough to keep you sane, if you don't..."

"If you don't." Maggie said, "My granddaughter, Penelope, was a sweet girl who couldn't cope.  She was how I met Daphne, and Elizabeth...the three of them met in rehabilitation for drug addictions."

"Liz wuz a druggie?" Debra asked.

"Was is the operative word." Maggie said tartly as the stylist worked on her hair, "Elizabeth and Daphne each found other ways to attain that mental privacy that keeps us sane...Penny...couldn't-she overdosed when she'd had enough. It's taken the better part of a decade to get Elizabeth and Daphne speaking to one another again."

"but...why?" Debra asked.

"Liz blamed me." Daphne told her, "You're right about how that part of her mind works, one of my father's employees was a 'hookup' for Bluerock."

"Ew." Debra said, "I've seen what that does."

"Penny found out about him from me, while we were in rehab, and she sought him out after we were diagnosed 'clean'.  She overdosed in a spaceport bathroom." Daphne explained, "Elizabeth blamed me for it."

"but there's more to it." Deb said.

Maggie nodded, "Penny's parents were having problems, and I was negotiating with Lockheed at the time, so she ran away from home-and because we were all so very busy, nobody knew what she was up to, until her body was found-Elizabeth was still recovering from being shot, but she was able to attend the funeral.  Daphne...was not able to attend."

"They don't give you passes from your freshman year for a best friend's funeral half the Commowealth away." Daphne explained.

"what did you do about it?" Debra asked, "The dealer, I mean?"

"I believe he suffered an accident." Daphne stated, "it involved an airlock at high altitude with no pressure suit."

"He was dealt with." Maggie stated, "but Elizabeth is rather unforgiving by nature."
"If you have to ask permission, then it's no longer a Right, it has been turned into a Privilege-something that can be and will be taken from you when convenient."

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #75 on: 27 March 2016, 15:28:27 »
Must be related to Laura Roslin
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #76 on: 27 March 2016, 16:25:08 »
lessee here: presentable, open carry handgun for a young Baroness... I'm thinking something by Tiffany&Co.









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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #77 on: 27 March 2016, 17:30:46 »
I don't know, I don't see Deb as the "Ivory Grips" type.  Maybe something in blued steel with gold inlay and dark hardwood grips.  Blue steel and gold for the Commonwealth and hardwood for home.  Maybe a Mauser?

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« Reply #78 on: 27 March 2016, 17:36:34 »
Something like this maybe?

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« Reply #79 on: 27 March 2016, 17:47:43 »
Something like that, but I thought it was a revolver?

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« Reply #80 on: 27 March 2016, 17:59:19 »
I'm thinking more like this, but with hardwood grips, maybe rosewood?



Something that has seen hard times, but is still a decently ornate item.  It's just dressed up enough to say what needs saying, socially, but is still fully functional and entirely lethal. It's Debra, if she were a gun.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #81 on: 27 March 2016, 18:01:37 »
Nah- nobility requires the Patton pistols.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #82 on: 27 March 2016, 18:06:48 »
Nah- nobility requires the Patton pistols.
But that's just it, she doesn't see herself as a "true" Noble.  That has connotations of inefficiency and waste that a hillfolk would find abhorrent.  She sees herself as doing what has to be done because it's what's right, not what she was born to do.
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« Reply #83 on: 27 March 2016, 18:26:03 »
But the people suggesting the weapon are the dressers, not Deb.  Deb wouldn't carry it otherwise as a daily weapon.

To the dressers, the extravagance of Patton's pistols would be part of the image of Deb they're projecting, not the actuality of her.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #84 on: 27 March 2016, 18:28:18 »
But the people suggesting the weapon are the dressers, not Deb.  Deb wouldn't carry it otherwise as a daily weapon.

To the dressers, the extravagance of Patton's pistols would be part of the image of Deb they're projecting, not the actuality of her.
I thought they were suggesting that she polish up her daily carry revolver, I didn't think they were suggesting a whole new weapon.

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #85 on: 27 March 2016, 18:30:17 »
It was "service pistol" that threw me... it was indeed a revolver.

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« Reply #86 on: 27 March 2016, 18:45:12 »
I thought they were suggesting that she polish up her daily carry revolver, I didn't think they were suggesting a whole new weapon.

Re-reading the text, I think it could go either way.  I personally wouldn't want anyone messing with my personal weapon, and would definitely test any new weapon delivered on Tharkad.
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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #87 on: 27 March 2016, 19:03:02 »
Re-reading the text, I think it could go either way.  I personally wouldn't want anyone messing with my personal weapon, and would definitely test any new weapon delivered on Tharkad.
I'm the same way, messing with my personal weapon is akin to getting some ink done; it's going to be special to me and reflect my personality, which means I'm going to be heavily involved in the process.  As for any new weapon, regardless of where it's from, it's going to get extensive testing before I accept it as my primary.  That brings up another possibility, the engraved pistol for show and the daily carry as a concealed back-up.

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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #88 on: 27 March 2016, 19:46:30 »
I'm the same way, messing with my personal weapon is akin to getting some ink done; it's going to be special to me and reflect my personality, which means I'm going to be heavily involved in the process.  As for any new weapon, regardless of where it's from, it's going to get extensive testing before I accept it as my primary.  That brings up another possibility, the engraved pistol for show and the daily carry as a concealed back-up.

True, but there is something to be said for a pistol that LOOKS like a mere show-piece accessory, but is in fact a fully functional weapon.  Perhaps something like this?



A more modern reproduction of course...but still obviously an antique design, purely a decorative piece... >:D


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Re: Ngoverse v. 4.0- "The Politics of Compromise"
« Reply #89 on: 27 March 2016, 20:24:17 »
That fashion crew was doing a Sherlock Scan on her, very nicely written.  And it appears that when Henri is actually made to be professional, he does know what he is doing.  Suggestions, ideas, and more spring from him quite well.

 

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