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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #960 on: 24 May 2018, 04:09:07 »
Wow, those are big jugs (get your mind out of the gutter . . . external fuel tanks  ^-^ )

They look like they have got a bit more of an angular edge to them than the standard external fuel tanks but they still could not help the RCS.
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #961 on: 24 May 2018, 11:04:55 »
"Undetected" in that part of the world doesn't necessarily mean the technology worked...

how could they tell it was effective in that part of the world, did they check the rubble and the dust for a color change? are the craters a different shape from the ones already there?

as for 'undetected', when the enemy's using 50's era HiMAD (but without the radars because those were already blown up in the fighting earlier this year) and shoulder-launched heat-seekrs that require eyes-on to engage (not really possible at 30K+ feet altitude) that's kind of a no-prize.  You can do it in a Hawker Hunter under those conditions.  Irregulars and the remnant of a conscript army working with handmedowns and scraps isn't a test of your 'stealth' features, it's fish in a barrel for anything with wings and working avionics.

Put it up against an airforce that isn't flying fifty  year old planes armed with junkyard special munitions, who have a working early-warning net, and functional ADA network and aren't a mixture of  untrained volunteers, political appointees, etc. etc. first,  see how it does and maybe then, you've got something to announce when it works.

but the Middle East? Syria's a basket case.  Unless those strikes were at Russian positions with established defenses and secure perimeters, it's not really a test of anything except map-reading for the pilot.
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #962 on: 24 May 2018, 12:13:11 »
Guys, airplane discussions are fine, politics are not. Which you're all VERY well aware of. Don't get this thing locked.  C:-)
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #963 on: 24 May 2018, 12:25:20 »
Its something. Well we know they can drop bombs now.

Anyway... maple syrup and poutine memes go!

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« Reply #964 on: 24 May 2018, 12:27:40 »
150...is that for the country, or the air arm?

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« Reply #965 on: 24 May 2018, 12:40:09 »
150...is that for the country, or the air arm?

(Don't look at me like that. Somebody might choose to count from their first observer balloons.)
The country. Think its too early even for airships. The first air arm was the Aviation Militaire, formed in 1910.

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« Reply #966 on: 24 May 2018, 13:10:26 »
150...is that for the country, or the air arm?

(Don't look at me like that. Somebody might choose to count from their first observer balloons.)

I THINK it's for the Canadian Armed Services in-general, but I'm not 100% sure.
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« Reply #967 on: 24 May 2018, 14:34:58 »
It was for the signature of the Confederation of Canada by the representatives of the various british colonies July 1st, 1867.

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #968 on: 24 May 2018, 19:33:10 »
This is for the photo I wish I would have gotten today.

A C17 did a flyby over Lake Minnetonka at about 500 ft. I was stuck in my car and stuck in traffic so I didn't get the look I wanted but from what I could reckon it was about 500 off the ground and about 500 feet from shore and doing about 200 kts and about a 45 degree (or more) bank at one point.  Just awesome...of course all the snooty people in Wayzata had absolutely no appreciation for that display...

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #969 on: 25 May 2018, 09:09:22 »
Its something. Well we know they can drop bombs now.

Anyway... maple syrup and poutine memes go!


it's so...pretty. 
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #970 on: 27 May 2018, 06:56:24 »
Nice photo of that CF-18

Seen this one at a Airshow 2 years ago.
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #971 on: 27 May 2018, 12:20:38 »
Australian Hawk simulator. Kinda nice huh?


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« Reply #972 on: 03 June 2018, 15:09:43 »
Maybe one day!
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« Reply #973 on: 03 June 2018, 15:13:06 »
Maybe one day!

that MIGHT actually be a wee bit overpowered.  (I know, scary thought, right?)
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #974 on: 04 June 2018, 15:01:50 »
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
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« Reply #976 on: 05 June 2018, 18:25:02 »
I mentioned this plane in the Naval thread, the German torpedo bomber, Fieseler Fi-167:

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #977 on: 05 June 2018, 19:52:37 »
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« Reply #978 on: 06 June 2018, 11:54:54 »
Oooh, Zeds on parade.

On that note, why yes, those are AIM-9s.  Shame they haven't had a chance to shoot down a jet yet, that'd be the best story ever for the rotary wing club.
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« Reply #979 on: 06 June 2018, 20:36:34 »
Oooh, Zeds on parade.
Of note, that's not even the whole squadron of 27 planes.  Found another photo:

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #980 on: 07 June 2018, 07:31:34 »
Oooh, Zeds on parade.

On that note, why yes, those are AIM-9s.  Shame they haven't had a chance to shoot down a jet yet, that'd be the best story ever for the rotary wing club.


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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #981 on: 07 June 2018, 08:39:42 »
If you're in a MiG and you take a Sidewinder from a freaking helicopter, you don't eject. I don't care how high up you are, how damaged the aircraft is, whatever- you keep your hands in your lap, don't touch the yellow handles, and ride it in. Because there's no getting past this level of shame.  xp
considering you'd probably have a better chance of surviving a crash than surviving an ejection from most MiG's...

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« Reply #982 on: 07 June 2018, 09:20:14 »
Probably better than actual seppuku anyway...

But I think its more for self-defence against other choppers isn't it? Doesnt the Hind carry AAMs too?

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« Reply #983 on: 07 June 2018, 09:23:44 »
Probably better than actual seppuku anyway...

But I think its more for self-defence against other choppers isn't it? Doesnt the Hind carry AAMs too?

I feel like I've seen one carrying AA-8s, but I can't find an image now that I (briefly) search. Maybe they were AT-6s and I'm just dumb.

But I'll never skip an opportunity to post a Hind.

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #984 on: 07 June 2018, 11:51:03 »
It's really hard to find a good pic, though there are a couple of closeups - almost as hard as finding pics of Apaches packing Stingers.





BTW it looks like the Stinger is tube soft-launched even when mounted on the AH-64. I did not know that...

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #985 on: 07 June 2018, 11:52:01 »
Of note, that's not even the whole squadron of 27 planes.  Found another photo:


I was wondering how large the unit is/would be


There is probably more variation in what makes up a "squadron" in terms of numbers of aircraft than any equivalent unit name I can think of


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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #986 on: 07 June 2018, 13:10:09 »
BTW it looks like the Stinger is tube soft-launched even when mounted on the AH-64. I did not know that...
yep it is.


makes for good cross compatibility, since the shoulder fired, helicopter mounted, and ground vehicle mounted versions all use the exact same ammo system.

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« Reply #987 on: 07 June 2018, 13:15:14 »
Bingo. Shipping container, self-contained storage safe from the elements, able to be used by any of several launch systems. It's actually a remarkably good idea when you think about it- if one needed, one could pull them from an aircraft (for example) and easily use them in infantry launchers, mechanized units like Avenger, etc. or vice versa. And while it's star may not be as bright as it was 30 years ago when they made life miserable over Afghanistan, it's still as good of a small-caliber SAM system as any out there.
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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #988 on: 07 June 2018, 18:26:43 »
Bingo. Shipping container, self-contained storage safe from the elements, able to be used by any of several launch systems. It's actually a remarkably good idea when you think about it- if one needed, one could pull them from an aircraft (for example) and easily use them in infantry launchers, mechanized units like Avenger, etc. or vice versa. And while it's star may not be as bright as it was 30 years ago when they made life miserable over Afghanistan, it's still as good of a small-caliber SAM system as any out there.

Hmmm...didn't we already see that in a scene in Firebirds?

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Re: Aviation Pictures Part Trois
« Reply #989 on: 07 June 2018, 18:40:50 »
Yeah, we just had that conversation a couple months ago.
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