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[cryptoknight]

So Page 16 of Hinterlands has rules to convert used BV per mission to BSP to bring Mercenary Support Units.
What about Alpha Strike?
BSP in Alpha Strike are for things like Artillery strikes... The Ratio of BV:PV is 30:1 and since BV is divided by 20 to calculate BSP... does that mean unspent AS PV are multiplied by 1.5 to calculate BSP for AS...
or do we look at the starting BSP of 32 vs 5 and multiply by 1.5 and then divide by 6.4 to get the BSP?  More or less divide unspent PV by 4 to get additional AS BSP?

On page 36 it seems to indicate that you just buy tanks or Infantry Barracks... but what about unspent Pv that you can't or won't spend?

[cryptoknight]

Also Arthur the example... doesnt' seem to hold together.
On Page 20 he's taking a mission for Great Eagle Garrison (which I can't find to reference in the Hinterlands PDF, so I can't see the starting points for the contract) But his base pay is 8 (110 %)
Except then on Page 32 he's taking his first mercenary contract again?

[Azakael]

So Page 16 of Hinterlands has rules to convert used BV per mission to BSP to bring Mercenary Support Units.
What about Alpha Strike?
BSP in Alpha Strike are for things like Artillery strikes... The Ratio of BV:PV is 30:1 and since BV is divided by 20 to calculate BSP... does that mean unspent AS PV are multiplied by 1.5 to calculate BSP for AS...
or do we look at the starting BSP of 32 vs 5 and multiply by 1.5 and then divide by 6.4 to get the BSP?  More or less divide unspent PV by 4 to get additional AS BSP?

On page 36 it seems to indicate that you just buy tanks or Infantry Barracks... but what about unspent Pv that you can't or won't spend?

From the errata thread -

Alpha Strike
before sentence beginning "you receive a single.." add
"For every 4 PV your force is under Scale limit, you receive 1 additional BSP for that track. You can convert up to 20 PV to +5 BSP, per Scale."

[cryptoknight]

Page 69 Almotacen's Hiring Hall
The Regular Dispossed pilot is available for the standard purchase cost (100 SP)
The Veteran Dispossed is also available for  100 SP... Seems like it should be more?  Training to Vet would be 250 SP (AS) or 300 SP (CBT)

[cryptoknight]

From the errata thread -

Thanks... I'd have thought it would have been on page 16 with the rest of the BV/PV parts... but that works out.

[cryptoknight]

Page 70 Hinterlands.
Kandersteg has Red Royal... with a KGC-0000 that you pay 500 SP to upgrade to a KGC-000
Where does that cost come from?
BV wise their BV difference is 96, PV is 2

If he sells his KGC-0000 for 1/2 its BV that's 905... the purchase cost of the KGC-000 is 1906... should the cost be 1001 BV to upgrade?
Reconfiguring an Omnimech is tonnage/4 but this seems closer to BV/4 ?
Just trying to understand if somebody wants to modify their mech... what the SP costs are... Just the BV Delta?  BV Delta x 5? 

[nckestrel]

This cost isn’t governed by a rule.  The cost is as listed, for that specific circumstance for that specific mech while hiring that specific person.  Because that’s the price he demands.

[cryptoknight]

This cost isn’t governed by a rule.  The cost is as listed, for that specific circumstance for that specific mech while hiring that specific person.  Because that’s the price he demands.

That's fair I guess... for normal upgrades, they'd sell it and then buy it back?

Speaking of which, AS (and BV) change based on skill level.  Does Hinterlands follow that?  It seems to cost the mechs at Skill 4 (AS) 4/5 (CBT) and track pilot upgrades separate.  Which I'm fine with... If that's what it does.

[Kilter]

Hinterlands: P.37 Alpha Strike Wounded or killed in Action:

Wouldn’t any “Ammo explosion” critical (unless the unit has the ENE special) also cause a pilot injury, even if protected by CASE/CASEII?

As the feedback from an ammo explosion causes 2 points of Pilot damage (in Classic).

[nckestrel]

Hinterlands: P.37 Alpha Strike Wounded or killed in Action:

Wouldn’t any “Ammo explosion” critical (unless the unit has the ENE special) also cause a pilot injury, even if protected by CASE/CASEII?

As the feedback from an ammo explosion causes 2 points of Pilot damage (in Classic).

Not at this time.

[Azakael]

Pg. 40 "Hell's Horses Purchase Options - Vehicles" remove the Support Points column.

Pg. 112 "Mkuranga Purchase Options Table" remove purchase cost column.

Anywhere purchase costs are listed for units, those are intentional even if different from standard rules-based costs.

The Mkuranga makes sense in this situation since it is a purchase during a track, but the Hell's Horses one confuses me, as the chart seems to exists for creating a Horses command.

[Kilter]

The Mkuranga makes sense in this situation since it is a purchase during a track, but the Hell's Horses one confuses me, as the chart seems to exists for creating a Horses command.

Wouldn’t that be valid for a Hell’s Horses Opfor?

[cryptoknight]

Is there a reason that there are no command complications for randomly created contracts?
For a Random contract, lack of a random command complication roll would encourage those taking random contracts to always go with Integrated Command since it has no impact.

[nckestrel]

Is there a reason that there are no command complications for randomly created contracts?
For a Random contract, lack of a random command complication roll would encourage those taking random contracts to always go with Integrated Command since it has no impact.

You will have to use your own, there's no random generated command complications yet.  Pick one already written, or don't use them (and don't allow players to negotiate command rights).

[XanKortal]

In Campaign Operations 4th print (no updates in the version 5 errata) page 75

Fire Fist:
"To use this ability, the ’Mech must have [...] as well as at least one direct-fire energy or ballistic weapon located
[...]
For example, if an HCT-5S Hatchetman makes a successful hatchet attack using its right arm—where it also mounts a medium pulse laser"


The example provided lists a mech that does not have a direct-fire energy (DE) or direct-fire ballistic (DB) weapon - the medium pulse laser is a P weapon according to Total Warfare (table page 303, tag list page 113)

Should the wording be cleaned up to clarify any potential confusion around whether pulse lasers count as direct-fire energy weapons (or even just to say 'or pulse weapon')?
Should it use a different example? (if pulse lasers don't count and it's meant to only apply to DE or DB weapons)
Should the P weapon tag have something added to specify that it counts as 'direct-fire energy weapon' for rules that don't make special rules distinctions for Pulse weapons?

[CapellanYouxia]

This is regarding the cards provided in the McCarron's Armored Cavalry Assault Lance.
The art for the AWS-9Q Alpha Strike card and the same art re-used on the pilot card for Padraig Swann.
The card for Padraig is stating that he is in Third MAC. The camo spec for the Third is

The Wild Ones paint their ‘Mechs dark copper with burnished steel highlights.

Per FM:Capellan Confederation, page 89.

Other references:
Emperor, FM:Capellan Confederation (plate 6)
Emperor, CB: Miniatures Rules (p 20)
Ti Tsang, Maxim, Yin Long BA, Combat Equipment Guide (color plate 5)

And I can confirm the FM:CC info personally.

Is this an actual change to their camo scheme? Because this card art is not very "dark copper" looking.
I could maybe loosely interpret that color as the "burnished steel" but that was supposed to be a highlight.
Did old Padraig just say "naw I like the highlight color everywhere please"? If so that seems to be a bad example of what a Third MAC would be.
 
I ask because I'm about to paint a bunch of my Mercs KS as Big MAC of which some will be from the 3rd.

[cryptoknight]

Another Hinterlands Question.
So I get that you can stable a few mechs (Vehicles with Tanker, Barracks etc).
But your monthly maintenance costs are based on your scale.

So if I hoard up 2 regiments of mechs, and hire pilots for them, but stay at Scale 1... my maintenance costs are Scale x Base Salary = 500 SP/month ?

I get its an abstract system... in this case there's less incentive to play at higher scale, except for wanting more stuff on the field... becuase Opfor is scaled to your scale, and you might have a smaller salvage pool to pull from, but as you pull salvage... you're just not going to be at risk of bankruptcy ever... because worst case you'll sell one of ryou 17 Atlases to pay for this month's costs?

[Kilter]

Yes. It’s based on what the contract scale you were hired at.

You can have loads of options. They’re all just mothballed until you decide to use them in a Scale 1 mission/track.

Think of it like a “sidebar” of mechs that you can choose from. You’re just playing at Scale 1 (3K + BSPs or 3500 and no BSPs) if you were hired at scale 1, or are playing a Scale 1 opponent.

You could actually sign up for multiple Scale 1 contracts if you had multiple regiments of mechs.

[Xotl]

Please hold off on any further Hinterlands questions for the next few days.  I have to compile errata, and need a clear line between what is getting collated and what will come after.  Thank you.


EDIT: You can resume questions now.  Thanks.

[Xotl]

The inaugural Hinterlands errata has been uploaded.

[Alfaryn]

Hinterlands' errata document file name suggests it was published on the 24th of December. Assuming the document isn't a Christmas Eve present leaked early it should say it was published on the 14th.