Clan Blood Spirit: Get Off Our Lawn

[Shin_Fenris]

It's not homemade, it's just converting the dice results on the published RATs to percentage chances. Also, as always RATs are not indicative of all designs an entity actually have access to, but hopefully highlighting the designs that are most common or used a lot.

RATs are definitely limiting if used as a "these are the -only- units a faction has available" list but using your percentiles definitely illustrates just how much the Clan uses certain designs. Things like the Blood Kite that we know make up a large amount of CBS' Assault 'Mech pool in general takes on a bigger meaning when it's 47% in 3059.

I haven't thumbed through my Field Manuals in a bit. Looking forward to FM: Updates 'cause I think that's when the Crimson Langur may have finally made it on a RAT (hopefully, WoR if not I'm sure) & I use them more than almost any other design for Blood Spirit deployment from 3067 on.

[HobbesHurlbut]

Here's the percentiles for Field Manual: Update. Of course, as always, I try to list the top 3 in each group.

FM: Update 3067
Frontline
--Light
Kit Fox Omni = 27.77% (Prime 40%, A 60%)
Adder Omni = 25% (B 55.56%, H 44.44%)
Mist Lynx Omni = 19.38% (B 71.4%, H 28.6%)

--Medium
Crimson Langur = 30.54% (Prime 45.44%, A 54.55%)
Stooping Hawk = 19.43% (Prime 57.2%, C 28.5%, D 14.3%)
Battle Cobra = 16.66% (A 50%, B 50%)


--Heavy
Crossbow Omni = 38.87% (Prime 78.6%, B 21.4%)
Summoner = 13.88% (A Config)
Grizzly = 13.88%
Timber Wolf = 11.11% (D Config)

--Assault
Blood Kite = 44.42%
Kingfisher Omni = 33.32% (C 16.65%, D 83.34%)
Warhawk Omni = 5.55% (Prime)

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Secondline
--Light
Locust IIC = 27.77%
Incubus = 22.21%
Horned Owl = 13.88%

--Medium
Griffin IIC = 22.21% (Standard 50%, 3 12.47%, 4 37.5%)
Shadow Hawk IIC = 24.99%
Conjurer = 30.54%


--Heavy
Rifleman IIC = 30.54 (Standard 72.72%, 3 27.28%)
Grizzly = 27.77%
Thresher = 19.43%

--Assault
Blood Kite = 55.53%
Warhammer IIC = 13.88% (Standard 60%, 3 40%)
CRCRK-5003-1 Crockett = 11.11%

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Vehicles
--Light
Shamash = 38.87%
Svantovit = 16.65% (Standard 16.63%, Streak 83.36%)
Mithras = 11.11%
Zorya = 11.11%

--Medium
Maxim (Clan) = 36.09%
Bandit (Clan = 33.32% (67% Prime, 33% A)
Ku = 16.65%

--Heavy
Pike (Clan) = 30.54%
Ishtar = 27.76%
Magi = 16.66%
Oro = 16.66%

--Assault
Morrigu = 44.42% (Standard variant 62.5%, Laser variant 37.5%)
Demolisher (clan) = 30.54%
Huitzilopochtli = 13.88%

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--DropShips
Union C = 30.54%
Arcadia = 22.21%
Broadsword = 19.44%

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Frontline Aerospace
--Light
Chaeronea = 24.99%
Batu = 16.66%
Sulla = 13.88%
Issus = 13.88%
Vandal = 13.88%
Bashkir = 13.88%

--Medium
Turk = 36.1% (Prime 77%, C 23%)
Jagatai = 27.76%
Tyre = 27.76% (Standard 90%, 2 10%)
Sulla = 5.55%

--Heavy
Hydaspes = 49.98%
Sabutai = 36.09 (Prime 31%, C 69%)
Kirghiz = 13.87% (Prime 20%, C 80%)

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Secondline Aerospace
--Light
Chaeronea = 38.87% (Standard 85.8%, 2 14.2%)
TRN-3T Trident = 16.66%
SPD-502 Spad = 13.88%

--Medium
Tyre = 55.54% (Standard 65%, 2 35%)
HCT-231B Hellcat II = 36.08
IRN-SD1 Ironsides = 5.55%

--Heavy
Hydaspes = 63.85%
RPR-100 Rapier = 16.66%
HMR-HD Hammerhead = 16.66%
AHB-443 Ahab = 2.77%

[HobbesHurlbut]

Forgot to add the ProtoMechs for FM: Update

FM: Update Blood Spirits
Protomech
Roc = 36.1% (Standard 23%, 2 46%, 3 31%)
Satyr = 19.43 (Standard 28.6%, 2 71.4%)
Centaur = 13.88% (2 60%, 3 40%)
Gorgon 3 = 13.88%
Minotaur = 11.11%
Harpy 2 = 2.77%
Hydra = 2.77%

[truetanker]

What's the Infantry look like?

More Battle Armor or something else like PBI?

Foot over Fast Recon Hover based or would Space Marines be more common, as they would get the extra attention in combat?

To note, Marines are better trained than Foot, but they would have more options in combat as a viable xenoplanetary force. I'd even go as far as to use them as Foot units on the ground.

TT

[tassa_kay]

Their infantry RATs in WoR Supplemental are overwhelmingly Elementals, some Sylphs and Gnomes, a Corona and a Clan Assault Infantry.

[HobbesHurlbut]

Their infantry RATs in WoR Supplemental are overwhelmingly Elementals, some Sylphs and Gnomes, a Corona and a Clan Assault Infantry.

i already did that part.
Infantry
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--Keshik
Elemental = 49.97%
Salamander = 19.44%
Gnome = 16.66%
Sylph = 11.11%
Corana = 2.77%

--Frontline
Elemental = 49.97%
Salamander = 24.99
Gnome = 13.88%
Sylph = 11.1%

--Secondline
Elemental = 55.53%
Salamander = 19.44%
Sylph = 13.88%
Clan Assault Infantry = 5.55%
Gnome = 5.54%


I'll post the rest of the Reaving RATs tomorrow

[HobbesHurlbut]

The nice thing about that infantry table is you just round them to nearest 5 or so for whole BA points.
For Keshik and Frontline you have 10 points of Elementals to other types. Second line its 11 elemental points.
Keshik ratio is 10 elemental points to 4 salamander points to 3 gnome points to 2 slyph points and round up to a whole point of Corana.

[tassa_kay]

Surprised there aren't more Coronas on the RATs, given the long years of fighting the Adders on York. Though I suppose between the fact that you probably can't salvage most BA after a battle and the Adders were mostly fielding second-line units on York, I guess it makes sense.

[HobbesHurlbut]

and that's last of the RATs!
Wars of Reaving 3072 Blood Spirits RATs

'Mechs
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Keshik
--Light
Kit Fox = 27.76%
Adder = 24.99%
Mist Lynx = 19.44%
Incubus = 16.66%
Arctic Cheetah = 5.55%
Horned Owl = 2.77%
Piranha = 2.77%

--Medium
Crimson Langur = 24.99%
Stooping Hawk = 22.2%
Battle Cobra = 16.66%
Nova = 16.66%
Conjurer = 8.333% (3)
Stormcrow = 8.33%
Hunchback IIC = 2.77%

--Heavy
Crossbow = 30.54%
Summoner = 16.66%
Timber Wolf = 13.88%
Mad Dog = 11.11%
Grizzly = 8.33%
Thresher = 8.33%
Hellfire = 5.55% (2)
BL-6b-KNT Black Knight = 2.77%
Rifleman IIC = 2.77%

--Assault
Blood Kite = 44.43%
Kingfisher = 27.76%
Warhawk = 16.66%
Blood Asp = 5.55%
Dire Wolf = 2.77%
Supernova = 2.77%

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Frontline
--Light
Incubus = 30.54%
Kit Fox = 22.21%
Mist Lynx = 19.43%
Adder = 13.88%
Piranha = 8.33%
Horned Owl = 5.55%

--Medium
Stooping Hawk = 24.99%
Battle Cobra = 16.66%
Conjurer = 13.88%(3)
Crimson Langur = 13.88%
Nova = 11.11%
Hunchback IIC = 8.33%
CRB-27b Crab = 5.55%
Griffin IIC = 2.77% (4)
Stormcrow = 2.77%

--Heavy
Mad Dog = 16.66%
Crossbow = 13.88%
Thresher = 13.88%
Timber Wolf = 13.88%
Summoner = 11.11%
Hellfire = 11.11% (2)
BL-6b-KNT Black Knight = 8.33%
Glass Spider = 5.55%
Grizzly = 2.77%
Rifleman IIC = 2.77% (3)

--Assault
Blood Kite = 33.32%
Kingfisher = 22.21%
Warhawk = 16.65%
Blood Asp = 11.11%
Supernova = 8.33%
Warhammer IIC = 8.32% (Standard 33.3%, 3 66.7%)

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Secondline
--Light
Locust IIC = 27.77%
Incubus = 22.21%
Horned Owl = 19.43%
MCY-99 Mercury = 11.11%
Jenner IIC = 8.33%
MON-66b Mongoose = 5.55%
Howler = 2.77%
Piranha = 2.77%


--Medium
Conjurer = 30.54% (Standard 55.5%, 2 45.5%)
Shadow Hawk IIC = 24.99%
Griffin IIC = 22.21% (Standard 50%, 3 12.5%, 4 37.5%)
CRB-27b Crab = 11.1%
Vapor Eagle = 8.33%
Hunchback IIC = 2.77%

--Heavy
Rifleman IIC = 30.54% (Standard 72.7%, 3 27.3%)
Grizzly = 27.77%
Thresher = 19.43%
BL-6b-KNT Black Knight = 13.88%
Glass Spider = 8.32%

--Assault
Blood Kite = 55.53% (Standard 50%, 2 50%)
Warhammer IIC = 13.88% (Standard 60%, 3 40%)
CRK-5003-1b Crocket = 11.11%
Phoenix Hawk IIC = 8.33% (3)
Marauder IIC = 5.55%
HGN-732b Highlander = 2.77%
Supernova = 2.77%

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ProtoMech
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--Keshik
Delphyne = 30.54% (Standard 45%, 2 55%)
Chrysaor = 22.21% (Standard 37.5%, 2 62.5%)
Roc = 16.66% (Standard 66.7%, 2 33.3%)
Hydra = 11.11% (4)
Sprite = 8.33%
Minotaur = 8.32%
Procyon = 2.77%

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--Frontline
Delphyne = 24.99% (Standard 55.5%, 2 44.5%)
Chrysaor = 22.21% (Standard 62.5%, 2 37.5%)
Hydra = 16.66% (4)
Roc = 16.66% (Standard 33.3%, 2 66.7%)
Minotaur = 11.1% (Standard 75%, 4 25%)
Cerecops = 5.55%
Sprite = 2.77%

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--Secondline
Cecerops = 30.54% (Standard 36%, 2 28%, 3 36%)
Roc = 27.76% (2 50%, 3 50%)
Chrysaor = 16.66%
Gorgon = 11.11% (3)
Minotau = 11.1% (Standard 25%, 4 75%)
Hydra = 2.77% (6)

[alex blood spirit]

at the start of the Blood Spirit;s  what if they bacame  the premire weapons manufacturer and mech aerospace designer

[HobbesHurlbut]

at the start of the Blood Spirit;s  what if they bacame  the premire weapons manufacturer and mech aerospace designer

the coyotes were supposedly the inventors of the clans or something like that.

[HobbesHurlbut]

Got a new vehicle variant for yall.
https://bg.battletech.com/forums/combat-vehicles/pike-pac/

[The Eagle]

Surprised there aren't more Coronas on the RATs, given the long years of fighting the Adders on York. Though I suppose between the fact that you probably can't salvage most BA after a battle and the Adders were mostly fielding second-line units on York, I guess it makes sense.

I'm surprised there's no Salamander BA, what with the increasingly close ties with the Mandrills towards the end.

[HobbesHurlbut]

I'm surprised there's no Salamander BA, what with the increasingly close ties with the Mandrills towards the end.

https://bg.battletech.com/forums/clan-chatterweb/clan-blood-spirit-get-off-our-lawn/msg1942106/#msg1942106  they're on the RATs. I post it 7 posts above yours.

[Top Sergeant]

Love the Blood Kite. In fact I picked up two more from the IWM booth at Origins on Saturday.

[Tyler Jorgensson]

Check out Matt Plog’s new sketch of it: pretty good IMO

[Sjhernan3060]

Check out Matt Plog’s new sketch of it: pretty good IMO

Would that be on a tumbler?

[Gaiiten]

Check out Matt Plog’s new sketch of it: pretty good IMO

"Sketch" is good, would be happy if I could do such sketches  :)

Here you go:
https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog/art/Extra-Pint-BloodKite-960530358

[Tyler Jorgensson]

Would that be on a tumbler?

Sorry was on a break and forgot to snag the link: thanks Galiten

[Shin_Fenris]

"Sketch" is good, would be happy if I could do such sketches  :)

Here you go:
https://www.deviantart.com/mattplog/art/Extra-Pint-BloodKite-960530358

Daaaaaaaaang. That's a good looking update. I could use a couple Stars of these.

[Wolf72]

Daaaaaaaaang. That's a good looking update. I could use a couple Stars of these.

I think for a mid year surprise they should produce a Blood Kite salvage box! .. I can dream.

[Crimson Dynamo]

See, I love me some Plog but that update doesn't do it for me, though I do like the updated weapons placements. The original Blood Kite is chonky love that the mere mortal sculptors at IWM never stood a chance of capturing in a physical medium and no one has dared try since, and if they ever redo it, I hope it's not that version. It doesn't even have the depth charge racks on the shoulders...

[tassa_kay]

See, I love me some Plog but that update doesn't do it for me, though I do like the updated weapons placements. The original Blood Kite is chonky love that the mere mortal sculptors at IWM never stood a chance of capturing in a physical medium and no one has dared try since, and if they ever redo it, I hope it's not that version. It doesn't even have the depth charge racks on the shoulders...

As usual, I agree with you. It's a "meh" at best.

[StCptMara]

See, I love me some Plog but that update doesn't do it for me, though I do like the updated weapons placements. The original Blood Kite is chonky love that the mere mortal sculptors at IWM never stood a chance of capturing in a physical medium and no one has dared try since, and if they ever redo it, I hope it's not that version. It doesn't even have the depth charge racks on the shoulders...

On one hand, I agree. It lacks a little of the elements of the oriinal that made it a beautiful brick of metal. On the other hand...It is the Blood Kite getting some attention. I would love to see the Blood Kite get some plastic version as well(Wars of Reaving Kickstarter, maybe?), because I kinda feel bad putting my metal ones on the table, as they are smallerthan light 'mechs.

[alex blood spirit]

why did Khan Schmidt cancel her creation of ilchi, since it seemed to be making progress with mostmclans

[Wolf72]

not fast enough progress to stem the raids from Mongoose (CSJ got them) and Burrock.  I think that was part of the reasoning.

[Stormlion1]

Most Clans had a problem remembering the Blood Spirits still existed. A ambassador was just confusing to them. Didn't help the Blood Spirits had little to trade and were considered so small trialing with them might be seen as bullying.

[Alan Grant]

The Blood Spirits also saw all the ways the other Clans were changing, big and small, developing their own ways, customs, naming conventions for things, rituals etc., and were appalled by it. It's almost like Wars of Reaving logic.

"They are tainted! Stay away from them! We can not send an ilchi to that Clan! Or that one! Or that one! OMG, they walked through here on their way out, we need bleach cleaner...."

Clan Blood Spirit? More like Clan "You must wear a Kerensky purity bracelet or we cannot be friends."

[alex blood spirit]

thanks for the info

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Blood Spirits also saw all the ways the other Clans were changing, big and small, developing their own ways, customs, naming conventions for things, rituals etc., and were appalled by it. It's almost like Wars of Reaving logic.

"They are tainted! Stay away from them! We can not send an ilchi to that Clan! Or that one! Or that one! OMG, they walked through here on their way out, we need bleach cleaner...."

Clan Blood Spirit? More like Clan "You must wear a Kerensky purity bracelet or we cannot be friends."

Huh. Interesting perspective, I never quite saw the similarity of those mindsets. I see it as a bit more justified that the espirit-de-corps Clan went into a deeply fundamentalist mindset after the identity crisis they had vs anything the Vipers were politically pushing about 'Taint', though.