Clan Invasion Kickstarter Discussion 5, Green Eyeshade Edition

[Pat Payne]

Yeah. This is absolutely stunning work. I can't wait to get Mechs marching over that gorgeous terrain  :thumbsup:. The waterfalls, the rapids... perfection from an aesthetic standpoint while still making it a playable map for gaming purposes. 

[Sartris]

Glorious

[Weirdo]

Were I asked to get a force across that map intact, I would refuse to play without access to at least one active probe, or a WarShip.

Translation: I love it! I don't care what the others look like, that map alone makes the whole set worth it. :drool:

Has anyone else looked at that central mesa and their first instinct was to hide a Demolisher there?

[SteelRaven]

Oh, this is a thing of beauty! :clap:

This might be too much to ask considering the size of the diorama it was based on but this would be a epic Gen Con display! 

[jimdigris]

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[Insaniac99]

Okay, I just looked at the latest update . . . dice bags are fine,

I like the Clan one, I'm honestly not a fan of the IS one.  I strongly suggested a Cameron Star, and I still wish they went with that.

[DarkSpade]

I wonder if the feedback from the kickstarter comments will affect the previous map?   Seemed like even people that liked the dropship marks thought their were way too many.

[SteelRaven]

Hope it doesn't effect the map making too much, 'too many cooks in the kitchen' can be a headache for the creative process and from what I have witness, it's impossible to please everyone in the community. 

[Daryk]

It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...

[DarkSpade]

Hope it doesn't effect the map making too much, 'too many cooks in the kitchen' can be a headache for the creative process and from what I have witness, it's impossible to please everyone in the community.

Well yeah, with any design work, you have to know when to listen to feedback and when to go with your gut.  Still though, I think all those char marks overshadow an otherwise beautiful map.

It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...

Pretty sure the planet was there even before the clans invaded.  ;)

[Daryk]

True, true...  :)

[Asgo]

Hope it doesn't effect the map making too much, 'too many cooks in the kitchen' can be a headache for the creative process and from what I have witness, it's impossible to please everyone in the community.

yeah, from my perspective that usually creates a design what is all over the place.
Taking comments to think (again) about certain aspects is useful, taking them as verbatim direction is a bad idea. ;)
Not just because you can't please anyone - in a group of >10k people you find opposite positions on almost any single feature or design decision -, but also because the feedback is nowhere close to representative.
It's somewhat entertaining to see the previously silent agreeing side rise up to complain when design changes are made based on some vocal complaints. Although, I think in this ks it might be unwise to risk that.

[pheonixstorm]

It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...

It's a map, does it matter what planet it is supposed to represent?

[Mendrugo]

It's pretty enough I may have to pick it up, even if it's from the clan era...

If you want to use it in another era, “Lady of Steel” depicted the Kurita invasion that seized Tukayyid from the Lyrans in 2855.

[Padraig Tseng]

It's a map, does it matter what planet it is supposed to represent?

Exactly, it could be Any Planet, Inner Sphere....just like any other map.

[Weirdo]

As awesome as these are, that's kinda why I'm also looking forward to Alien Worlds. Even as spoiled as we are in the Battletech setting for Earthlike planets, there'll still be worlds that are vastly different that we'll still be willing to fight over. :)

[Ursus Maior]

Not yet. It's an active discussion, more to come. Stay tuned.

That was a swift respond, thank you!

[Ursus Maior]

I like the Clan one, I'm honestly not a fan of the IS one.  I strongly suggested a Cameron Star, and I still wish they went with that.

Yeah, I'm actively thinking to re-open my PM just to switch from IS to Clan. The IS map depicted on the bag looks like a kid ate a ton of smarties and then vomited on the bag. I think a contour plot would look better or a Cameron Star or the five house symbols in astrographic order.

[Shin_Fenris]

Translation: I love it! I don't care what the others look like, that map alone makes the whole set worth it. :drool:

They had me at "map pack" but seeing this - holy crap is my 17 year old past self jealous that present-day me is going to be playing on that & not the old BF2 map that I learned on. Not that anything is wrong with BF2 (it still sees frequent use in our group) but that is stunningly evocative.

[Wolf72]

The IS map depicted on the bag looks like a kid ate a ton of smarties and then vomited on the bag.

LOL !!!!  :D

[ANS Kamas P81]

LOL !!!!  :D

Isn't that how Kerensky organized the original 20 clans?

[GreekFire]

I guess I'll be buying some maps now.
Never thought I'd be saying that.

edit: never mind apparently it's part of my pledge lol

[monbvol]

Has anyone else looked at that central mesa and their first instinct was to hide a Demolisher there?

No.

A Demolisher and a SRM Carrier.  After all two vehicles can fit in the same hex and Clans have this thing about not using Artillery.  Then some LRM Carriers would look good here and there too.  For funsies maybe even some Anti-mek infantry to pull the Clanner out of his mech and exsplain how real war works.  And a lawyer.  Definately a lawyer.  Pretty sure I've just committed a war crime thinking about this.

[pheonixstorm]

Don't the clans have a mech with Arrow IV??

[monbvol]

Having and using are two different things unfortunately for the Clans.

[Sartris]

Don't the clans have a mech with Arrow IV??

The Naga

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Technically they have two.  There's also the Bowman but it wasn't being used by any of the Invader Clans.

[SteelRaven]

They could slap a Arrow IV on almost any Omni they wanted, they just didn't want to.
 

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I doubt that they brought too many of them into the Inner Sphere.  Honestly I'd be doubtful if even the Wolves packed half a dozen.

[monbvol]

Add in Artillery is a TacOps or Battlemech Manual rule(both items not every player has or desires to play with) and I think my point stands that yes the Clans have artillery but use it rather extremely rarely.