Legacy of Blake: The Star and the Broadsword

[Cyc]

Seeing we're in a real world media referencing mood, I view Uncle Chandy providing the Blood info to the Ghost Bears is akin to Garak and Sisko's efforts in the "In the Pale Moonlight" episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The Inner Sphere needed the insular Bears to take a more active stance against the Blakists, flesh out a rumor the Bears will automatically react to, and they go all

[Maelwys]

I've often wondered if the Blood story was a WoB attempt to bring about the conflict they were gearing up for before the Successor States destroyed the Star League (again).

Lets say that the Jihad doesn't happen. WoB joins the Star League, proposes fighting the Clans...people balk because the Clans are being relatively peaceful. Next thing you know there are rumors of the WoB's Blood connections, the Ghost Bears and possibly other Clans are pushing into the IS trying to determine if its true..and you've got the War that the Blakists want.

[Deadborder]

The Operative: I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there... any more than there is for you. Malcolm... I'm a monster. What I do is evil. I have no illusions about it, but it must be done.

This so damn much. Its why I love the MD. They are complete monsters - literally and figuratively - and are aware of it. They do horrible, horrible things to make a better world which will not need them. And they are aware of this, and embrace it wholehartedly.

[Rainbow 6]

I've often wondered if the Blood story was a WoB attempt to bring about the conflict they were gearing up for before the Successor States destroyed the Star League (again).

Lets say that the Jihad doesn't happen. WoB joins the Star League, proposes fighting the Clans...people balk because the Clans are being relatively peaceful. Next thing you know there are rumors of the WoB's Blood connections, the Ghost Bears and possibly other Clans are pushing into the IS trying to determine if its true..and you've got the War that the Blakists want.

Now that i could see.

Like the new userbar Cyc, do you make them yourself?

[Stormlion1]

I can't see it, it would be more the WoB style to place the blame of a Wolverine connection on someone else, not on themselves.

[Cyc]

Yeah, the Blakists intentionally revealing the Blood in their midst relies heavily upon only the right people knowing, which admittedly in universe is the case, but if it leaked out it would provoke the Inner Sphere powers to join in the fighting against them, if only for "You made the Clans angry, secular ComStar was right! Death to the Fanatics!"

Like the new userbar Cyc, do you make them yourself?

Yes, the lack of Com guard usebars annoyed me, so gave it a crack. Not as polished as some, but gets the point across. So far only done two:

and of course the 6th. I'm open to suggestions on how to improve/divisions to do

[Hospitaller]

I'm somewhat disappointed with how little the Com Guards, and ComStar in general, were shown during the Jihad. They got pretty much obliterated during the opening moves of the Jihad, which is fine, but there was an opportunity for some really good stories behind the battles between the Com Guard and the WOBM that never really happened from what I have read so far. I guess there are quite a few stories on BattleCorps about Case White which may be more of what I am looking for.

I just would have liked to see more of the Com Guards during the battle for Terra. It was nice to see that the Com Guard commander from the Fall of Terra book was able to survive and wage a guerrilla war though.

[Cyc]

Makes me weep that we didn't don't appear we'll get division breakdowns of the new six Armies either :(

[Maelwys]

Yeah, the Blakists intentionally revealing the Blood in their midst relies heavily upon only the right people knowing, which admittedly in universe is the case, but if it leaked out it would provoke the Inner Sphere powers to join in the fighting against them, if only for "You made the Clans angry, secular ComStar was right! Death to the Fanatics!"

I dunno. What are they going to do, complain that ComStar took in refugees? That would be pretty hard to sell even for the House Lords.  They can't even complain that ComStar/WoB hid knowledge of the Clans, since all they have to do is reply with "Well, that was in 2830...who knows how they had changed in 2 centuries. Oh and while we're on the subject, why aren't you complaining about the Dragoons who knew they were coming much better than we did..AND sent back detailed intelligence reports on your nations."

Considering the Jihad wouldn't have happened, I can't see this revelation provoking people to fight against them.

I'm somewhat disappointed with how little the Com Guards, and ComStar in general, were shown during the Jihad. They got pretty much obliterated during the opening moves of the Jihad, which is fine, but there was an opportunity for some really good stories behind the battles between the Com Guard and the WOBM that never really happened from what I have read so far. I guess there are quite a few stories on BattleCorps about Case White which may be more of what I am looking for.

I just would have liked to see more of the Com Guards during the battle for Terra. It was nice to see that the Com Guard commander from the Fall of Terra book was able to survive and wage a guerrilla war though.

Yup, there was quite a bit of potential lost there. Its touched on a bit in Target of Opportunity I believe (a MWDA novel) where they have a ComStar commander fighting against a Blakist unit that's commanded by his wife, but we see very little of that. Not to mention the writers went out of their way to make the WoB so mind numbingly evildumb that you can't write a tragic story with them in it, its just "hah! Kill the evil scum!"

[Cyc]

Yes, pretty much the  Alain Beresick vs Gregory Zwick fight is the only thing that comes to mind like that

[Moonsword]

Yup, there was quite a bit of potential lost there. Its touched on a bit in Target of Opportunity I believe (a MWDA novel) where they have a ComStar commander fighting against a Blakist unit that's commanded by his wife, but we see very little of that. Not to mention the writers went out of their way to make the WoB so mind numbingly evildumb that you can't write a tragic story with them in it, its just "hah! Kill the evil scum!"

No, they made the upper ranks that evil.  A lot of the rank and file is a very different matter.  The reasoning behind different supports of the Word has been touched on in various places, including JHS:Terra.  I seem to recall BattleCorps has run some stories about it, too.

[Dread Moores]

Perhaps Stone was Blakist who had a change of heart like the Operative.  8)

I don't know that he had much of a change of heart. He has described himself as a monster to Victor.

[Stormlion1]

Some of the Battlecorp storys make many of the WoB personnel very sympathetic in fact, not enough to sway my opinion of them, but sympathetic.

[HuronWarrior]

I don't know that he had much of a change of heart. He has described himself as a monster to Victor.

The Operative did the same thing with Mal. But he still left the Alliance.

[Precentor Scorpio]

Does ComStar or the Word of Blake still end meetings, etc with Peace of Blake?
For the Word of Blake factions I am planning on using Blake Prevails (the movie V for Vendetta)

[Cyc]

Yep. The ComStar section of the Dark Ages: Touring the Star has a small section indicating that even during the Jihad that secular ComStar intoned it automatically just as readily as the Blakists, but that after the conflict ended that it fell out of favor due to the connotations linking it to worst events of the Jihad. The fact that Tucker Harwell's sister uses it was intended as a sign of fanatical backsliding in the Dark Ages.