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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #240 on: 10 February 2022, 00:41:14 »
Quote from: JAMES_PRYDE on 10 February 2022, 00:26:23
woops, yeah, just checked the Writer's Forum, but I first thought when I was reading the book it was Stephanie, as they left Jiyi's name out of it

I personally think the ambiguity would have been fine - it would have given us something to really debate about. 

But I am glad that it was settled in the writer's forum.  I like the Falcon Dominion.  They have the machines, and now, they have the warriors to pilot them.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #241 on: 10 February 2022, 02:08:51 »
where's the name Falcon Dominion come from?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #242 on: 10 February 2022, 02:24:00 »
Brain damage?   ;D

I should just say Sudeten.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #243 on: 10 February 2022, 02:27:47 »
Dominion:

1. sovereignty or control.
"man's attempt to establish dominion over nature"

2. the territory of a sovereign or government.
"the Angevin dominions"

Yup, I'll salute that flag ;)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #244 on: 10 February 2022, 02:47:30 »
Quote from: worktroll on 10 February 2022, 02:27:47
Dominion:

1. sovereignty or control.
"man's attempt to establish dominion over nature"

2. the territory of a sovereign or government.
"the Angevin dominions"

Yup, I'll salute that flag ;)

It was also used for a time to describe self governing colonies of the British Empire, such as Canada and Australia.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #245 on: 10 February 2022, 06:22:41 »
Quote from: rebs on 10 February 2022, 00:41:14
I personally think the ambiguity would have been fine - it would have given us something to really debate about. 

But I am glad that it was settled in the writer's forum.  I like the Falcon Dominion.  They have the machines, and now, they have the warriors to pilot them.

I coined it the "Jade Dominion" a few pages ago in this thread or another related... >:D

But in all seriousness, the quote that "The Age of Occupation Zones are over" as the ilClan is here, is floating around somewhere...

Yes does indeed make the case for the new name (and the new Mother / Father Falcon) attitude that Jiyi and Stephanie espouse for proper rebuilding and progress

On the Tamar Rising map, Jiyi's territory is simply called "Clan Jade Falcon", with no "Occupation Zone", but is the spirit and unofficial name "Jade or Falcon Dominion" for what really the new CJF actually is now ?

The two names both make sense though, as "Clan Jade Falcon" espouses that, "yes this is us and our home", but "Jade Dominion" also represents that and change in thinking / policies and progress. Kinda like the Bears perhaps ?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #246 on: 10 February 2022, 06:27:52 »
So, the "failed to launch" sibling of Jiyi's and Marena's crews - the Turkina Ascendancy. 

Organized a scorched earth withdrawal from coreward Periphery worlds and tried to set up shop on Barcelona, utilizing what remained of ancient (Reunification War-level ancient) fortresses that led to the planet being classified as a "Hedgehog World" during its time with the Rim Worlds Republic. 

Overrun by the Hell's Horses, but put up a solid fight that lasted until the storm season ended and the Horses' superior air assets tipped the balance.  What do you think Star Colonel M'oko and his merry marauders would have done if STAMPEDE hadn't come knocking at their door?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #247 on: 10 February 2022, 06:35:48 »
Quote from: BrianDavion on 10 February 2022, 02:47:30
It was also used for a time to describe self governing colonies of the British Empire, such as Canada and Australia.

Could make sense too, if indeed Jiyi and Stephanie link up, "Clan Jade Falcon" in general, and Jade / Falcon Dominion in name ?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #248 on: 10 February 2022, 06:39:37 »
Quote from: Mendrugo on 10 February 2022, 06:27:52
So, the "failed to launch" sibling of Jiyi's and Marena's crews - the Turkina Ascendancy. 

Organized a scorched earth withdrawal from coreward Periphery worlds and tried to set up shop on Barcelona, utilizing what remained of ancient (Reunification War-level ancient) fortresses that led to the planet being classified as a "Hedgehog World" during its time with the Rim Worlds Republic. 

Overrun by the Hell's Horses, but put up a solid fight that lasted until the storm season ended and the Horses' superior air assets tipped the balance.  What do you think Star Colonel M'oko and his merry marauders would have done if STAMPEDE hadn't come knocking at their door?

Would make sense to support Jiyi, and try to link up with him, but then this would have annoyed Marena

Did anything of the Ascendancy survive, or simply annihilated ? 
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #249 on: 10 February 2022, 06:49:30 »
They'd gotten as far as declaring Barcelona as their capital, and were focusing on getting their short Cluster fully integrated with the sibkos pulled from Somerset before venturing out to seize more territory.

A future author could do something with scout forces that happened to be offworld at the time the Horses arrived, but for all intents and purposes, the Ascendancy was erased from the maps by STAMPEDE.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #250 on: 10 February 2022, 08:40:59 »
Quote from: worktroll on 10 February 2022, 02:27:47
Dominion:

1. sovereignty or control.
"man's attempt to establish dominion over nature"

2. the territory of a sovereign or government.
"the Angevin dominions"

Yup, I'll salute that flag ;)

All hail Worktroll!  He has spoken!
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #251 on: 10 February 2022, 10:30:06 »
Quote from: Mendrugo on 10 February 2022, 06:27:52
So, the "failed to launch" sibling of Jiyi's and Marena's crews - the Turkina Ascendancy. 

Organized a scorched earth withdrawal from coreward Periphery worlds and tried to set up shop on Barcelona, utilizing what remained of ancient (Reunification War-level ancient) fortresses that led to the planet being classified as a "Hedgehog World" during its time with the Rim Worlds Republic. 

Overrun by the Hell's Horses, but put up a solid fight that lasted until the storm season ended and the Horses' superior air assets tipped the balance.  What do you think Star Colonel M'oko and his merry marauders would have done if STAMPEDE hadn't come knocking at their door?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that said Ascendancy was run by elements of the Mongol faction, if so they'd likely not get along with Jiyi. especially as Jiyi's claim to the Khanship is, pretty weak all considered
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #252 on: 10 February 2022, 10:40:53 »
Their scorched earth tactics definitely suggest Mongol tendencies.  They wanted to cause enough damage that any aggressor would be too busy cleaning up the mess to bother them on Barcelona.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #253 on: 10 February 2022, 10:50:43 »
Quote from: Mendrugo on 10 February 2022, 10:40:53
Their scorched earth tactics definitely suggest Mongol tendencies.  They wanted to cause enough damage that any aggressor would be too busy cleaning up the mess to bother them on Barcelona.

yeah if thats the case my guess is they'd not have linked up with Jiyi. and I suspect their reaction would be to laugh in his face
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #254 on: 10 February 2022, 12:32:44 »
Quote from: BrianDavion on 10 February 2022, 10:50:43
yeah if thats the case my guess is they'd not have linked up with Jiyi. and I suspect their reaction would be to laugh in his face

It's a moot point, now.

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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #255 on: 10 February 2022, 20:34:31 »
Quote from: rebs on 10 February 2022, 12:32:44
It's a moot point, now.

They gone!

since when has that stopped endless speculation? :)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #256 on: 10 February 2022, 21:12:53 »
Quote from: BrianDavion on 10 February 2022, 20:34:31
since when has that stopped endless speculation? :)

True.  It would have probably been yet another fight that the survivors of Jade Falcon just don't need.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #257 on: 10 February 2022, 22:20:33 »
Were they a particular galaxy? Would make a nice failed state build.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #258 on: 10 February 2022, 22:22:01 »
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Were they a particular galaxy? Would make a nice failed state build.

Just left overs from other solhama/garrison groupings I’m pretty sure.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #259 on: 10 February 2022, 22:53:26 »
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Were they a particular galaxy? Would make a nice failed state build.

Most likely?  Zeta Galaxy.  That was the solahma galaxy during Malvina's tenure. 
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #260 on: 10 February 2022, 23:02:51 »
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Were they a particular galaxy? Would make a nice failed state build.

They were the Somerset sibkos, solahma scrapings from half a dozen worlds, and paramilitary police, with transport assets seized from a Free Guild.  They managed to field the understrength Turkina Ascendant Cluster.  They specialized in ambushes and hit and run attacks during the Barcelona campaign.
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« Reply #261 on: 10 February 2022, 23:05:36 »
Quote from: Mendrugo on 10 February 2022, 23:02:51
They were the Somerset sibkos, solahma scrapings from half a dozen worlds, and paramilitary police, with transport assets seized from a Free Guild.  They managed to field the understrength Turkina Ascendant Cluster.  They specialized in ambushes and hit and run attacks during the Barcelona campaign.

OK, so they would have had a mix of Falcon paint schemes?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #262 on: 10 February 2022, 23:08:24 »
I'd guess camo, given their appetite for ambush.  M'oko wasn't a big fan of batchalls or zellbrigen.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #263 on: 10 February 2022, 23:57:00 »
I can work with that ... (just what I need, an IlClan-era unit which I'd need to buy some IWM minis for ... and them not able to ship Down Under.)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #264 on: 12 February 2022, 00:58:17 »
Quick Turkina Ascendancy question, which Perhipery Holding did they move from to Barcelona, before being wiped out ?
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #265 on: 12 February 2022, 04:20:57 »
They pulled in forces from Somerset, Bone-Norman, Black Earth, Beta VII, and Newtown Square, massing on Barcelona.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #266 on: 12 February 2022, 15:04:13 »
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They pulled in forces from Somerset, Bone-Norman, Black Earth, Beta VII, and Newtown Square, massing on Barcelona.

they need to let the Lyrans eventually push all the way to Somerset just so that Roderick can have a "I have returned" moment of returning to his family's ancestral home...
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #267 on: 13 February 2022, 04:59:18 »
Hey ol' Beck Malthus is still alive and kicking post ilClan Trial, quiaff ?

(Remember a line or something about him being the new Loremaster of 3rd Star League)
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #268 on: 13 February 2022, 06:58:27 »
Beckett died in 3145 after a failed bid to remove Malvina from power.
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Re: Clan Jade Falcon III: Admittedly, We May Have Falconed a Little Too Hard
« Reply #269 on: 13 February 2022, 08:19:39 »
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Beckett died in 3145 after a failed bid to remove Malvina from power.

And Malvina subsequently Reaved his bloodright from existence.
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