Mercenaries Kickstarter Discussion 6: the 1st 3rd Star League conversation

[Lorcan Nagle]

Feet?

[I am Belch II]

I see that Chinese New Year is going on.
Did the Kickstarter make it out before??

[Maingunnery]

makes me wonder if they're going to try and sneak some other item in as an actual surprise gift. say an extra poster print or something that would be easy for them to set up.

Unlikely, at this stage adding another surprise would be costly and possibly cause chaos. He also sounded very disappointed to me.

[shivanwurm]

While those resemble Vulture legs, they're not genuine Vulture legs. As the B'wacker was based on Vulture schematics & parts, the similarity is perhaps not surprising.

It’s standing on a Vulture cockpit/shoulder

[Weirdo]

I apologize, I was not aware that the Savannah Masters were a free bonus. That's rather cool, though when/if it's up on the CGL store I hope they spell out the number of bases in the box.

[Charistoph]

So managed to get a picture all lined up and on a hex map to demonstrate the 3/4" life.



Back Row: CGL Wolverine and Conjurer.
Mid row: IWM Infantry, IWM Elemental, Badger on Battleforce Hex, and Roc.
Front row: IWM 30mm hex base, painted battleforce hex.

[General308]

I see that Chinese New Year is going on.
Did the Kickstarter make it out before??

Chinese New year starts what the 10th of feb this year.

I have seen nothing to think it would.  I don't think it is going to ship till the end of march when they plan to ship Levithan last I herd.    No reason I think that other than it would make sense to do it all at once.      But remember up until June 21st is still spring.  So when they have been saying Spring they haven't actually be saying a date earlier than they promised since day one.   

[butchbird]

So managed to get a picture all lined up and on a hex map to demonstrate the 3/4" life.

Back Row: CGL Wolverine and Conjurer.
Mid row: IWM Infantry, IWM Elemental, Badger on Battleforce Hex, and Roc.
Front row: IWM 30mm hex base, painted battleforce hex.

That gives a good idea of the scale. Will have to look into such sized bases. Very helpful. Now I'm curious whether the CGL elementals can be safely unbased.

[StCptMara]

So even as bad as it is, even as lopsided as my fights were, even as that Mech died due to its AMS ammo being blown up (the system doesn't work, but the ammo sure does!), even as our younger group left en masse and pooled resources on the way home to buy our own box sets and TROs so we could learn the game ourselves the right way (mostly)... I've kept a warm spot in my heart, pun intended, for the Firestarter ever since. That was Genesis, that's where my Battletech career began. Getting a new miniature of it after all these years- particularly one that looks that nice- it means more to me than it really normally should.

My first games were in a Rifleman 4D during the Clan Invasion. I was horribly out-classed and out-gunned. At least the people introducing me to the game taught the game. I mastered the 'mech. And, to this day, I will take a Rifleman over any other 'mech offered. I think, really, the 1st 'mech we run sits with us.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

I don't know about that.  The first mech I ever ran was a Mercury and to this day I regularly forget that that mech even exists.

[Sartris]

mine was a whitworth and i hope one day to make it completely extinct so that experience is not universal

[jgodwin17]

Chinese New year starts what the 10th of feb this year.

I have seen nothing to think it would.  I don't think it is going to ship till the end of march when they plan to ship Levithan last I herd.    No reason I think that other than it would make sense to do it all at once.      But remember up until June 21st is still spring.  So when they have been saying Spring they haven't actually be saying a date earlier than they promised since day one.

Honestly I think if it doesn't ship until the end of March it seems unlikely that everyone's order will be shipped out by June 21st. Between transit time, time waiting to be unloaded, time stuck in customs, shipping everything to the warehouses, picking and packing orders, etc. That said if the Kickstarter even manages to deliver in July, it would still be one of the fastest Kickstarters ever, haha. It's pretty regular in my experience to see them deliver six months to a year late.

[General308]

Honestly I think if it doesn't ship until the end of March it seems unlikely that everyone's order will be shipped out by June 21st. Between transit time, time waiting to be unloaded, time stuck in customs, shipping everything to the warehouses, picking and packing orders, etc. That said if the Kickstarter even manages to deliver in July, it would still be one of the fastest Kickstarters ever, haha. It's pretty regular in my experience to see them deliver six months to a year late.

I mean you are not wrong.  I mean Kickstarters almost never ship on time and early.  Every Kickstarter that CGL has done has been late.  So I don't honestly see a reason to expect otherwise.  But looking at were things are at and knowing they have to give people time to pay for shipping.  I think on time would be really hard at this point.

[I am Belch II]

If it comes a couple of months late, it’s still better than my wave 2.5 of the Clan Invasion Kickstarter. I hope Catalyst will say something at least a little bit if things have got pushed back or not.

[Broken_Metal_Dreaming]

Yeah an extra month or two is nothing, Freebord Indiegogo took 3 years to fulfill.

[BrianDavion]

mine was a whitworth and i hope one day to make it completely extinct so that experience is not universal

I mean for 3025 it's a good mech, it just ages poorly against star league tech

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

Depends on the variant, too.  The 3050 "upgrade" is terrible.

[thedancingjoker]

I'm not too upset about when exactly I get my plastic pile.  But not knowing when it will ship is a bit stressful as I am going to have to move at some unknown point this year, which might complicate shipping I don't want to lock in a shipping address and then not have things ship for months later such that I am at a new house by then.

[Sartris]

Depends on the variant, too.  The 3050 "upgrade" is terrible.

My hatred was in reply to the notion that your first mech retains some special significance. It doesn’t matter whether the whitworth is “good” or not. I will always hate it.

[Lorcan Nagle]

I'm not too upset about when exactly I get my plastic pile.  But not knowing when it will ship is a bit stressful as I am going to have to move at some unknown point this year, which might complicate shipping I don't want to lock in a shipping address and then not have things ship for months later such that I am at a new house by then.

Generally the last "confirm your address" mail goes out shortly before shipping begins. So unless your move is going to be within a month or so of getting the mail, you're probably safe.

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

My hatred was in reply to the notion that your first mech retains some special significance. It doesn’t matter whether the whitworth is “good” or not. I will always hate it.

Still better than a Mercury.

[Sartris]

not relevant to my personal experience. coincidentally, the mercury was likely slated for ilclan extinction until the RG entry.

[General308]

If it comes a couple of months late, it’s still better than my wave 2.5 of the Clan Invasion Kickstarter. I hope Catalyst will say something at least a little bit if things have got pushed back or not.

I am not worried about a few months either.  It is pretty clear the stuff is being made after all.   I just don't like or understand the push by some thinking it is going to be so early.  It just sets up false expectations that leave people mad and disappointed.  We have even seen some post on the Kickstarter page thinking the stuff is late when it isn't even close.   I think CGL brings some of that on it's self by making suggestions that it could be early.  There is zero benifit to bring up that posiablity till you know for sure.

[DarkSpade]

Any kickstarter that arrives less than 6 months late is early.

[StCptMara]

Any kickstarter that arrives less than 6 months late is early.

Seyla!

I always add 6 months to the projected time if it is just books, a year if it is miniatures. That way, I am never disappointed....except for Robotech Tactics :(

[General308]

Seyla!

I always add 6 months to the projected time if it is just books, a year if it is miniatures. That way, I am never disappointed....except for Robotech Tactics :(

Well at lest when Robotech Tactics when it disappointed it did so in amazing Nuke of a Failure that will be talked about for all time....so there is that...

[Wolf72]

Well at lest when Robotech Tactics when it disappointed it did so in amazing Nuke of a Failure that will be talked about for all time....so there is that...

Somehow, I do not think that makes anyone feel better (unless we were the ones, saying 'man, I missed out on supporting this' ... then breathed a little easier when mushroom cloud dissipated.)

[ActionButler]

Any kickstarter that arrives less than 6 months late is early.

It's been over two years since I backed the Mothership kickstarter and I still have nothing to show for it. I'm not too fussed because I trust that they are progressing, but... yeah... Catalyst would need a hell of a fulfillment delay for me to consider anything late.

[glitterboy2098]

Somehow, I do not think that makes anyone feel better

no, no it does not. the company is still being harrassed by people over it, with people trying to make all their more recent crowdsourcing projects (for actual RPG books and related merchandise that they actually can deliver fairly rapidly, and have) tank and generally be nasty trolls about it.

[General308]

no, no it does not. the company is still being harrassed by people over it, with people trying to make all their more recent crowdsourcing projects (for actual RPG books and related merchandise that they actually can deliver fairly rapidly, and have) tank and generally be nasty trolls about it.

It is shocking that dude has been able to keep his company open after the robotech debacle.