Author Topic: (Answered) A unit in the woods can shoot without being seen?  (Read 1076 times)

Mostro Joe

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I have a question about the woods rules.
It is said that if LOS crosses more than 6in of a woods area, the LOS is blocked. That's clear.
It is said that a unit that occupies a terrain area has a 2in zone that represents the space it occupies, and those 2in are not considered intervening terrain. So if a unit is 2in from the edge of a woods area, it can shoot to someone outside without penalties, but when shooted at from the outside the unit inside the woods benefits for being in the woods, because the attacker still have a firing malus. And that's clear again.
It is said that "the first 2" away from the base of the unit does not count toward the 6" of woods blocking LOS" (pag.40). And that's clear too.

The question is: my unit is 7" inside a woods area. That means it has 2in away from its base and then only 5in of woods that so do not block its LOS and It can fire to a target outside the woods. BUT units outside the woods have still a LOS that passes thru 7in of woods and then their LOS is blocked! I can fire, but the target cannot  :grin:

This can contradict the very same pag.40 that says that LOS works both ways. But again, if LOS works both ways, then 6in of woods can't block LOS if my unit is 7in deep in the woods!  :shocked:
« Last Edit: 12 July 2024, 06:59:04 by nckestrel »

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Re: A unit in the woods can shoot without being seen?
« Reply #1 on: 12 July 2024, 06:58:51 »
The text you are referring to has errata removing it.  It was part of the "additional text should be deleted" in the following errata from the 6.0.3 errata document.

⑥ Line of Sight (p. 40)
After the last paragraph insert the following new paragraph:
This ruling has changed from previous errata versions.
Infantry units occupying a building may ignore the building as blocking LOS, as long as their target may draw LOS to the occupied building.
Errata note: In the sixth printing, there is additional text after this sentence in this paragraph. The additional text should be deleted.

Note that there are still circumstances where the other LOS rules can result in one unit would have LOS to a unit that would not have LOS back, usually as a result of something blocking the "head" of the unit, and the rule that LOS is reciprocal overrules all other LOS rules.  If the LOS is blocked from one unit to another, then regardless of any other rules, the LOS is blocked from that other unit back to the first.  It's not that LOS being reciprocal is a result of other LOS rules, but that LOS is reciprocal regardless of what the other LOS rules result in.

Partial Cover and Woods can be non-reciprocal. An attack one direction can get partial cover and/or Woods while the attack between the same units in the other direction does not get those modifiers.  LOS being blocked is the only thing that is reciprocal.
« Last Edit: 12 July 2024, 07:00:59 by nckestrel »
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Re: (Answered) A unit in the woods can shoot without being seen?
« Reply #2 on: 12 July 2024, 11:12:40 »
I have read the errata after your reply and the whole matter is indeed more streamlined.

Thanks for your clarification!  :smiley: