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WidowMaker-LRM
« on: 01 November 2024, 14:45:01 »
So over in another thread they were talking about custom mechs & MUL entries & someone pointed out that WidowMaker is there but not WidowMaker-LRM from Natasha's ToP.

I'm re-reading the Trilogy right now & I noticed that the stats on Sarna are totally wrong from what is in the book.


Sarna has the following..
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Widowmaker LRM
The configuration of Dire Wolf piloted by Natasha Kerensky at her Trial of Position to test out as a MechWarrior. For long range combat, the ER PPCs are replaced by shoulder-mounted twin LRM-20 launchers with 24 racks, first half being Swarm LRMs and backed up by a Large Pulse Laser mounted in each arm. For close combat, the left torso carries three ER Medium Lasers in triangular configuration in the chest and the stubby LB 20-X AC with 10 cluster rounds underslung on the right torso. For when things gets dicey, a "fire and forget" SRM-6 one-shot launcher above cockpit, just aft of the hatch and only 20 double strength heat sinks. This configuration was just for her Trial of Position and not used again.[30] No record sheet or statistics have been provided for this configuration.




However, from the actual novel this is what we know.

1.  "Some" LRMs in both Shoulders. 
Nowhere does it say they are 20 Racks - And the Notation about Swarm is PHELAN'S mech, not Natasha's.

2.  No where does it say the ERPPCs are removed. 
Actually, it specifically points out double over/under barrels on each arm but does NOT mention what type they are.
So they could have been PPCs, Larges, or Mediums,  we don't know.

3.  The Trio of Laser ports just says Torso, so we don't know that it is Left v/s the canon Windowmaker version of 2CT/1HD.

4.  The Autocannon is not specified by Caliber, and we don't know its LBX at all, since again the "CLUSTER" notation was Phelan asking about his mech, the LoneWolf.

5.  The "Fire & Forget, Missile Pack in the Head, was ALSO Phelan's mech & is not Natasha's.


I really don't know where the stats on Sarna are from.

I feel like that might be someone's "Fan" stats, since it specifically says no RS has ever been provided.


So I've made the following up as what I "think" might be the actual stats.

I started w/ the canon Widowmaker model & altered it just enough to fit in those LRMs.



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Daishi (Dire Wolf)   WidowMaker-LRM

Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Succession Wars
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E-D
Production Year: 3010
Dry Cost: 24,900,000 C-Bills
Total Cost: 24,900,000 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,277

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
    50.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                     152 points               10.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 3
    Running MP: 5
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             15(30)                    5.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 304                 19.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     31           47       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  14       
                                           L/R Torso     21           32       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  10       
                                             L/R Arm     17           34       
                                             L/R Leg     21           41       



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Loadout Name: WidowMaker-LRM (Hellraiser)                     Cost: 29,122,125
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-E-E-D                       BV2: 2,880

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             24(48)                    9.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 4 LT, 2 RT, 2 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
    CASE Locations: RT, LA, RA                                             0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Small Laser                               HD        2         1         0.50
2 ER Medium Lasers                           CT        10        2         2.00
Ultra AC/10                                  RT        3         4        10.00
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
ER Large Laser                               RA        12        1         4.00
LRM-10                                       RA        4         1         2.50
Large Pulse Laser                            LA        10        2         6.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
LRM-10                                       LA        4         1         2.50
@Ultra AC/10 (20)                            RT        -         2         2.00
@LRM-10 (12)                                 RA        -         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (12)                                 LA        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:     10    Points: 29
3          7       7       5       0      4     2   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1


Let me know what you think, and let me know if you know where those Stats are Sarna are from since they don't match the text from the hanger bay.

Has there been a RS somewhere?  Sarna says No.

Some Fan Stats just input into Sarna incorrectly?    Maybe Mechforce?
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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #1 on: 01 November 2024, 15:14:40 »
I don't see Natasha bothering with a UAC.  Even she would jam on a 2.

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #2 on: 01 November 2024, 15:43:35 »
I know I have the book in storage that has details, think it was called Outreach. It is buried in storage, I will try to find it this weekend.

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #3 on: 01 November 2024, 15:51:46 »
I don't see Natasha bothering with a UAC.  Even she would jam on a 2.

The canon RS for WidowMaker w/o LRMs has an Ultra-20 on it.

I just lowered it to a 10 for the LRM model to make room for the LRMs.

3041: General Lance Hawkins: The Equalizers
3053: Star Colonel Rexor Kerensky: The Silver Wolves

"I don't shoot Urbanmechs, I walk up, stomp on their foot, wait for the head to pop open & drop in a hand grenade (or Elemental)" - Joel47
Against mechs, infantry have two options: Run screaming from Godzilla, or giggle under your breath as the arrogant fools blunder into your trap. - Weirdo

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #4 on: 01 November 2024, 15:52:39 »
I know I have the book in storage that has details, think it was called Outreach. It is buried in storage, I will try to find it this weekend.

Hmm, never heard of it.

Can't find a reference to it on Sarna either as a BT Product.
3041: General Lance Hawkins: The Equalizers
3053: Star Colonel Rexor Kerensky: The Silver Wolves

"I don't shoot Urbanmechs, I walk up, stomp on their foot, wait for the head to pop open & drop in a hand grenade (or Elemental)" - Joel47
Against mechs, infantry have two options: Run screaming from Godzilla, or giggle under your breath as the arrogant fools blunder into your trap. - Weirdo

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #5 on: 01 November 2024, 15:53:21 »
Since you're replacing the 20 anyway, might as well pick the AC that doesn't jam... ;)

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #6 on: 01 November 2024, 15:56:31 »
It might have been Mechforce then.  I will still try to find it.

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #7 on: 01 November 2024, 15:58:30 »
Since you're replacing the 20 anyway, might as well pick the AC that doesn't jam... ;)

Like I said, I was trying to start with the eventual(canon) Widowmaker & back track it w/o many changes.
Besides, it is a ToP mech, she doesn't have enough time/ammo to Jam :)
3041: General Lance Hawkins: The Equalizers
3053: Star Colonel Rexor Kerensky: The Silver Wolves

"I don't shoot Urbanmechs, I walk up, stomp on their foot, wait for the head to pop open & drop in a hand grenade (or Elemental)" - Joel47
Against mechs, infantry have two options: Run screaming from Godzilla, or giggle under your breath as the arrogant fools blunder into your trap. - Weirdo

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #8 on: 01 November 2024, 16:33:48 »
The deuce respects no timeline! :D

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #9 on: 01 November 2024, 21:01:23 »
The deuce respects no timeline! :D


I'm sensing a lot of hate.
Have you spoken to someone about these issues?
Daryk, did the Ultra touch you inappropriately?
3041: General Lance Hawkins: The Equalizers
3053: Star Colonel Rexor Kerensky: The Silver Wolves

"I don't shoot Urbanmechs, I walk up, stomp on their foot, wait for the head to pop open & drop in a hand grenade (or Elemental)" - Joel47
Against mechs, infantry have two options: Run screaming from Godzilla, or giggle under your breath as the arrogant fools blunder into your trap. - Weirdo

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #10 on: 01 November 2024, 21:21:01 »
I roll WAY more 2s than I should, that's all... ;)

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Re: WidowMaker-LRM
« Reply #11 on: 05 November 2024, 18:35:43 »
I found the books!  They were from Mechforce UK called "Outreach and Beyond" and "Inbound".  Sadly, they did not have her Widowmaker LRM in them.  Lots of other goodies though. I only have photocopies of them as well.  Looks like I have a new hunt to perform.