Author Topic: Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise (Read 231696 times)

hoosierhick · « **Reply #210 on:** 22 December 2018, 09:21:08 »

Speaking of rough water and the North Atlantic...one of the Royal Navy's Tide-class tankers not too long ago:

ANS Kamas P81 · « **Reply #211 on:** 22 December 2018, 09:39:29 »

I look at photos like that and wonder how Zumwalt is supposed to NOT transform into a submarine with its 'wave-piercing' hull design. Yeah, I know it's all about displacement and such, but that's still inviting a LOT of water tonnage to hammer down from above.

Sabelkatten · « **Reply #212 on:** 22 December 2018, 11:29:30 »

Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 22 December 2018, 09:39:29

I look at photos like that and wonder how Zumwalt is supposed to NOT transform into a submarine with its 'wave-piercing' hull design. Yeah, I know it's all about displacement and such, but that's still inviting a LOT of water tonnage to hammer down from above.

I expect it's designed with that in mind. Keeping the crew under deck all the time doesn't just improve stealth. :)

MoneyLovinOgre4Hire · « **Reply #213 on:** 22 December 2018, 12:26:58 »

Quote from: Daryk on 22 December 2018, 07:46:02

Blue water is ALL mean. Worst I've personally experienced was the days after we rounded Cape Horn. Master and Commander gave a good feel for it.

Got to respect the Roaring Forties.

Wrangler · « **Reply #214 on:** 22 December 2018, 12:39:24 »

Old school WWII Pt Boat, this is the PT 105 underway during exercise in 1942.

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #215 on:** 23 December 2018, 03:34:57 »

Quote from: Daryk on 22 December 2018, 07:46:02

Blue water is ALL mean. Worst I've personally experienced was the days after we rounded Cape Horn. Master and Commander gave a good feel for it.

Yep, the roughest seas I've ever seen have to be in the Great Southern Ocean, it can either be the worst water way in the world or a lovely environment of flat water and magnificent star fields, sometimes within hours of each other. :-P

VhenRa · « **Reply #216 on:** 23 December 2018, 03:45:55 »

Saw a video of it taken from HMNZS Otago, it was insane the level of waves they were in.

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #217 on:** 23 December 2018, 06:22:39 »

Anzac in the Indian Ocean 2003. I was on Darwin where the photo was taken from.

Daryk · « **Reply #218 on:** 23 December 2018, 06:55:48 »

Quote from: Nightlord01 on 23 December 2018, 03:34:57

Yep, the roughest seas I've ever seen have to be in the Great Southern Ocean, it can either be the worst water way in the world or a lovely environment of flat water and magnificent star fields, sometimes within hours of each other. :-P

Definitely! When we actually passed Cape Horn, the weather was beautiful. 24 hours later, 50-knot winds, 30+ foot seas, and snow...

hoosierhick · « **Reply #219 on:** 23 December 2018, 09:47:03 »

USS Sigourney refueling from USS Franklin Roosevelt in the late 59's:

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #220 on:** 23 December 2018, 11:21:54 »

That's why ships like the destroyers at turn of the 20th Century had turtleback bows.

HMS Fame of D Class (1913).

Kidd · « **Reply #221 on:** 23 December 2018, 11:52:27 »

Everything old is new again... The X-Bow(tm) is an award-winning Norwegian ship design that, well, just take a look for yourself

JadeHellbringer · « **Reply #222 on:** 24 December 2018, 09:04:24 »

Amateurs.

hoosierhick · « **Reply #223 on:** 24 December 2018, 09:42:01 »

Quote from: Kidd on 23 December 2018, 11:52:27

Everything old is new again... The X-Bow(tm) is an award-winning Norwegian ship design that, well, just take a look for yourself

That pic looks like it's just begging to have a wave climb the bow and do bad things to the helicopter deck and pilot house windows. I'd be willing to bet that the design would minimize that, though.

DoctorMonkey · « **Reply #224 on:** 24 December 2018, 09:46:29 »

I saw this link on Quora - I won't post the photos directly as they are huge but if anyone knows how to shrink them and wants to...

http://amp.timeinc.net/thedrive/the-war-zone/25634/awe-inspiring-images-from-underneath-a-well-worn-uss-nimitz-the-navys-oldest-carrier?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

Daryk · « **Reply #225 on:** 24 December 2018, 10:08:19 »

Nice... NIMITZ was my ship back in the day. I still wear her belt buckle with my uniform. :thumbsup:

HobbesHurlbut · « **Reply #226 on:** 24 December 2018, 10:13:33 »

Quote from: DoctorMonkey on 24 December 2018, 09:46:29

I saw this link on Quora - I won't post the photos directly as they are huge but if anyone knows how to shrink them and wants to...

http://amp.timeinc.net/thedrive/the-war-zone/25634/awe-inspiring-images-from-underneath-a-well-worn-uss-nimitz-the-navys-oldest-carrier?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

This is how you do it. Just cap off both ends of the line.
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DoctorMonkey · « **Reply #227 on:** 24 December 2018, 10:31:18 »

Quote from: HobbesHurlbut on 24 December 2018, 10:13:33

This is how you do it. Just cap off both ends of the line.
img width=399]image address[/img

Thank you but you sorely over-estimate my abilities

truetanker · « **Reply #228 on:** 24 December 2018, 11:13:23 »

Wow... :o

Those are some nice phat donkey pics!

TT

worktroll · « **Reply #229 on:** 24 December 2018, 13:36:31 »

Quote from: DoctorMonkey on 24 December 2018, 09:46:29

I saw this link on Quora - I won't post the photos directly as they are huge but if anyone knows how to shrink them and wants to...

Amazing photos! Thanks for sharing.

W.

Colt Ward · « **Reply #230 on:** 24 December 2018, 17:59:39 »

I have tried to find it, but what was the name of the Brit WWII cruiser that had several feet of water over the turrets. Happened off Madagascar IIRC.

Nightlord01 · « **Reply #231 on:** 24 December 2018, 19:23:25 »

Quote from: hoosierhick on 24 December 2018, 09:42:01

That pic looks like it's just begging to have a wave climb the bow and do bad things to the helicopter deck and pilot house windows. I'd be willing to bet that the design would minimize that, though.

That flight deck is more than 30 metres above the sea surface, it's pretty safe.

Weirdo · « **Reply #232 on:** 24 December 2018, 19:33:29 »

I dunno. If waves can top the superstructure of a Tico...

Daryk · « **Reply #233 on:** 24 December 2018, 19:38:57 »

Or the flight deck of NIMITZ (which I've seen personally).

hoosierhick · « **Reply #234 on:** 24 December 2018, 19:41:30 »

Quote from: Nightlord01 on 24 December 2018, 19:23:25

That flight deck is more than 30 metres above the sea surface, it's pretty safe.

Wow...that thing is a lot bigger than I thought it was. But if a carrier can take water over the bow, I would thing pretty much anything can. But it would have to be in pretty extreme conditions.

Video of USS Kitty Hawk taking water over the bow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK9myqHOMfE

Colt Ward · « **Reply #235 on:** 25 December 2018, 00:00:40 »

From what I remember of the story, they took a rogue wave on the iron coast . . . basically the cruiser became a submarine for a bit.

Sabelkatten · « **Reply #236 on:** 25 December 2018, 06:34:48 »

Quote from: hoosierhick on 24 December 2018, 19:41:30

Wow...that thing is a lot bigger than I thought it was. But if a carrier can take water over the bow, I would thing pretty much anything can. But it would have to be in pretty extreme conditions.

Video of USS Kitty Hawk taking water over the bow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK9myqHOMfE

As far as I can see it's not actually taking water over the bow, it's just (a lot of) spray. I'm guessing the x-bow design won't create won't create much spray, and it probably channels the water to the sides before it reaches the top.

Sharpnel · « **Reply #237 on:** 25 December 2018, 08:00:26 »

I'm still wondering why there are aircraft on the deck in such heavy seas. That poor helicopter had to have suffered some damage.

Daryk · « **Reply #238 on:** 25 December 2018, 08:08:36 »

The site mentioned the helo had just been recovered, and that they were out for CQ, so the hangar bay may have been full. When NIMITZ was in the soup, we had a single helo on deck in case of a man overboard. It was tucked in as close to the island as possible, pointed toward the bow, and had its rotors folded. Fortunately, we never had to launch it.

Kidd · « **Reply #239 on:** 25 December 2018, 08:35:50 »

What's the gender ratio like on a large ship like a Nimitz-class carrier or LPD? How about a Tico or Burke?