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Re: Upcoming Releases Volume XIV: Aw, what's in the box!!?
« Reply #660 on: 04 May 2019, 12:37:55 »
So, for the Commanders Edition... if I bought the new book, then got rid of my AS rulebook and my AS Companion, would I be losing anything other than warships?
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« Reply #661 on: 04 May 2019, 12:46:22 »
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« Reply #662 on: 04 May 2019, 13:54:54 »
So, for the Commanders Edition... if I bought the new book, then got rid of my AS rulebook and my AS Companion, would I be losing anything other than warships?

Warships, quirks, conversions and PV calculations are not in ASCe.    The Table of Contents was posted on Facebook.  It would be more specific than me.
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« Reply #663 on: 04 May 2019, 14:44:31 »
Was that the entire ToC? I'm really surprised by the lack of conversion and PV rules.
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« Reply #664 on: 04 May 2019, 15:37:51 »
Was that the entire ToC? I'm really surprised by the lack of conversion and PV rules.

Space considerations, I already asked.   :'(

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« Reply #665 on: 04 May 2019, 15:55:38 »
The emphasis is on what’s needed to play tie game.  The PV and conversion rules will presumably be a later PDF. Presumably as in there is agreement that is how it would be done, but not something we are actively working in yet.
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« Reply #666 on: 04 May 2019, 17:18:40 »
So the Commander's Edition is essentially the BattleMech Manuel for AS?
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« Reply #667 on: 04 May 2019, 17:21:09 »
So the Commander's Edition is essentially the BattleMech Manuel for AS?

It's visually similar, but includes everything to run 'Mechs, vehicles, infantry, battle armor, protomechs, conventional fighters, aerospace fighters, dropships, support vehicles, and mobile structures, plus a bunch of optional rules and advanced terrain types, then three chapters on how to build a force, how to give that force special abilities, and basic scenarios.  So not really, no, but it's a good book.
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« Reply #668 on: 04 May 2019, 19:15:21 »
So is it a new book or just a update.
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« Reply #669 on: 04 May 2019, 19:28:23 »
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.
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« Reply #670 on: 04 May 2019, 23:40:47 »
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.
Just how magnificent are we talking here, something on this or even this level?

I noticed the formation building rules, will these have any notes or suggestions on factional flavor since the Combat Manuals are canceled?  I'm not asking for super-in-depth stuff, but just if it's pure vanilla or has some sprinkles on it.

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« Reply #671 on: 04 May 2019, 23:51:20 »
I actually have no inside knowledge, everything I know about this book had come from this forum. But my gods, that's some hair. I can't promise it'll be on that level, I'm personally hoping for some gritty flock of seagulls with 80s short shorts.
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« Reply #672 on: 05 May 2019, 00:19:48 »
Just how magnificent are we talking here, something on this or even this level?

I noticed the formation building rules, will these have any notes or suggestions on factional flavor since the Combat Manuals are canceled?  I'm not asking for super-in-depth stuff, but just if it's pure vanilla or has some sprinkles on it.

I think it mentions the MUL a couple times, but the formation building rules are largely the same as from the Companion, along with some minor rebalancing of the various Lances (and a couple new ones under "Combined Infantry and Transport Formations" :thumbsup:).  There's also a much better explanation of how to use Special Command Abilities for your entire force.  That part is very similar to the Combat Manuals, though it doesn't come with examples; more it's how those abilities are governed.

Following the steps under "Force Building" will let you build your own units that would not have looked out of place on a Combat Manual page.
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« Reply #673 on: 05 May 2019, 01:16:50 »
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« Reply #674 on: 05 May 2019, 06:16:17 »
Think of it as the Captain Planet of updates. It'll be more powerful than AS and ASC were on their own, and on top of that there will be magnificent hair and no pants.

Thanks for the update.
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« Reply #675 on: 05 May 2019, 19:43:18 »
Looking at the contents it looks like no quirks  :(
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« Reply #676 on: 05 May 2019, 20:30:40 »
I'm liking that you're using HBS artwork for the House Arano sourcebook.  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #677 on: 06 May 2019, 15:50:54 »
Will the Arano book cover just after the Arano restoration, or will it cover the units/characters that’s participated in the restoration itself, on both sides of the civil war?

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« Reply #679 on: 07 May 2019, 09:04:42 »
Warships, quirks, conversions and PV calculations are not in ASCe.    The Table of Contents was posted on Facebook.  It would be more specific than me.

Warships, conversions, and PV I can do without, but I'm pretty sad to see that quirks didn't make the final cut. But, hey, space considerations do that, yeah?
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« Reply #680 on: 07 May 2019, 13:56:36 »
I'm actually EXCITED that the conversion rules will not be in print in this book. I've always been a fan of keeping those electronic so they can be more easily updated if need be.

Warships...I won't go into it, but I have no problem with them being left out.

Quirks I'm waffling on. They are certainly interesting, but hardly necessary and not particularly helpful for game balance. There was a decent amount of work invested in them, but I am a proponent of limiting 'optional' rules in AS so I can't really complain much about leaving them out.

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« Reply #681 on: 07 May 2019, 14:05:36 »

Quirks I'm waffling on. They are certainly interesting, but hardly necessary and not particularly helpful for game balance. There was a decent amount of work invested in them, but I am a proponent of limiting 'optional' rules in AS so I can't really complain much about leaving them out.
Using the Quirks gave the mechs flavor so they will be missed  :(
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« Reply #682 on: 07 May 2019, 19:09:29 »
I do have problems with Warships being left out and possibly removed.
However, this isn't place for it that kind discussion.  I'm minority in liking all type Battletech Units equally,

I'm looking forward to the House Arano coming out among other things.

I'm curious about Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, if there will be big space station or something in it.
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« Reply #683 on: 07 May 2019, 19:18:32 »
I'm curious about Touring the Stars: Gulf Breeze, if there will be big space station or something in it.

Same here.  The Touring the Stars series is always intetesting.
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« Reply #684 on: 08 May 2019, 17:41:30 »
The Battle map / mat is already sold out. Any chance for a re-stock? Or alternative place to get it from?

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« Reply #685 on: 10 May 2019, 13:13:13 »
I think it mentions the MUL a couple times, but the formation building rules are largely the same as from the Companion, along with some minor rebalancing of the various Lances (and a couple new ones under "Combined Infantry and Transport Formations" :thumbsup:).  There's also a much better explanation of how to use Special Command Abilities for your entire force.  That part is very similar to the Combat Manuals, though it doesn't come with examples; more it's how those abilities are governed.

Following the steps under "Force Building" will let you build your own units that would not have looked out of place on a Combat Manual page.

So in order to use the Commanders edition I have to use the MUL.  There is no way to convert from Classic to Alpha.  Is this correct?

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« Reply #686 on: 10 May 2019, 13:18:24 »
No, it's not correct.  The conversion rules in the Companion aren't changing, but they are being left out of the Commander's Edition for both space and availability considerations.

You are no more required to use the MUL with the Commander's Edition than when Alpha Strike first came out: it's really damn convenient if you do, but barring a few pieces of errata/updates to correct mistakes your cards all still work.
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« Reply #687 on: 10 May 2019, 14:34:47 »
No, it's not correct.  The conversion rules in the Companion aren't changing, but they are being left out of the Commander's Edition for both space and availability considerations.

You are no more required to use the MUL with the Commander's Edition than when Alpha Strike first came out: it's really damn convenient if you do, but barring a few pieces of errata/updates to correct mistakes your cards all still work.

OK.  The Companion has the conversion rules.  So if I want to make custom Mechs to convert to Alpha strike then I either have to buy the older companion book or wait until the PDF with the conversion rules appear. 

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« Reply #688 on: 10 May 2019, 14:58:21 »
OK.  The Companion has the conversion rules.  So if I want to make custom Mechs to convert to Alpha strike then I either have to buy the older companion book or wait until the PDF with the conversion rules appear.

For the moment, yes.  I'm sure if you'd prefer to do neither of those things that someone would be willing to help you do that in the meantime.
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« Reply #689 on: 10 May 2019, 15:10:51 »
For the moment, yes.  I'm sure if you'd prefer to do neither of those things that someone would be willing to help you do that in the meantime.

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