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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #930 on: 06 November 2021, 07:56:04 »
is there a plan for a PDF version of battletech legends?
I for one prefer nonphysical books.

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« Reply #931 on: 06 November 2021, 08:01:50 »
is there a plan for a PDF version of battletech legends?
I for one prefer nonphysical books.
Since Kickstarter backers got that in PDF form, i presume it will come in that form eventually. Would be weird not to.

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« Reply #932 on: 06 November 2021, 08:10:04 »
Since Kickstarter backers got that in PDF form, i presume it will come in that form eventually. Would be weird not to.
Considering how often I find digital material posted online else where after release, I can't blame CGL for wanting to get the most out of the DTF first.
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« Reply #933 on: 06 November 2021, 08:32:16 »
Considering how often I find digital material posted online else where after release, I can't blame CGL for wanting to get the most out of the DTF first.

Exactly.  Even without file sharing, releasing the PDF first would be detrimental to sales for their DTF copies.  Don't blame them one bit for how they do things.
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« Reply #934 on: 06 November 2021, 08:43:00 »
Does CGL still have production files for stuff like shattered fortress, the field manuals and era reports? Because based on e-bay prices and lack of any copies on amazon, there is a market for at least a small reprint run of some books. I know I'd pick up or POD shattered fortress and field manuals 3145 & 3085.

I would also love to get physical copies of some of their older books, like Jihad Conspiracies and Interstellar Expeditions.

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« Reply #935 on: 06 November 2021, 09:28:15 »
Does CGL still have production files for stuff like shattered fortress, the field manuals and era reports? Because based on e-bay prices and lack of any copies on amazon, there is a market for at least a small reprint run of some books. I know I'd pick up or POD shattered fortress and field manuals 3145 & 3085.

I see it's time for my semi-annual refrain of "what's the deal with POD?"

I think you're conflating two concepts: print-on-demand through DriveThruRPG, and reprint runs. We've done a few volumes in POD through DTRPG, including Wars of Reaving, and I'm always agitating for more. True reprint runs of sourcebooks, as in, "here are the files Mr. Printer, please print X more so we can put them into regular retail distribution" are vanishingly unlikely for many reasons.

I'm a big supporter of POD, because, to me, it's an obvious method of monetizing (some of, but not all of) the back catalog for those who prefer DTF. Moreover, it allows us to keep available books that are important for customers returning to BT or just getting in, but which we aren't likely to re-create in some new format. For example, Wars of Reaving got done because a) we'd just done a major Clan Invasion era Kickstarter which brought a lot of people back into the game,  but b) the "current" era was now 100 years in the future from that point, requiring c) a way for Clan-fans to catch up on what happened in the years in between.

Imagine you played in the 90s, loved the Clans, fell out of the game, got reeled back in by the KS, wanted to get up to date on the newest era--but Wars of Reaving was unavailable, or $100 on the secondary market. That's a huge feel-bad, and a big barrier for buy-in to the ilClan era. I wouldn't blame that hypothetical customer for saying, "well, guess I've got what I'm going to get, I'll just stay here in the Clan Invasion era where I've got everything I need to play."

The hold-up with POD is that there is set-up work required--I've said before, we can't just e-mail a PDF file to DTRPG. While the benefits of POD are clear, unfortunately that set-up work is hard to prioritize because we're short of people who can do it, and we need them making the new stuff, not mining the old. However, we've recently started having conversations about getting POD moving again. ER3145 and Shattered Fortress are at the top of my list, along with FM3145 if we can grok what to do about the color plates in there. (FM3085 would have the same issue with the plates, but is personally a bit less of a priority than the key books needed to bridge into ilClan era.)

I would also love to get physical copies of some of their older books, like Jihad Conspiracies and Interstellar Expeditions.

The further back you go, the more difficult POD becomes. Those two books at least are CGL era, so I'd be more optimistic that we have what we'd need to someday POD them. FanPro and FASA-era stuff gets dicey fast. When POD comes up, among the top 10 books everyone asks for are the FASA House sourcebooks, but we'd be rebuilding them essentially from scratch, down to the level of probably re-typing them or heavily, heavily proofing an OCR scan.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #936 on: 06 November 2021, 09:28:43 »
Clan heavy star instantly out of stock. 

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #937 on: 06 November 2021, 09:28:49 »
is there a plan for a PDF version of battletech legends?
I for one prefer nonphysical books.

Aw hell.

We'll work on this today. Stay tuned.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #938 on: 06 November 2021, 09:29:10 »
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #939 on: 06 November 2021, 09:35:07 »
Clan heavy star instantly out of stock. 

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

It says at the bottom of the page that restocks are expected Nov 15 and Dec 1

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« Reply #940 on: 06 November 2021, 09:39:58 »
It says at the bottom of the page that restocks are expected Nov 15 and Dec 1

Oh good!

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« Reply #941 on: 06 November 2021, 10:05:32 »
Oh good!
But make sure not to be an hour late at each restock.
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Re: Upcoming Releases XXI: Urbie's Beer Run
« Reply #942 on: 06 November 2021, 10:08:13 »
Lost in the shuffle was that the newest GDL ELH fiction dropped as well

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« Reply #943 on: 06 November 2021, 10:30:46 »
Lost in the shuffle was that the newest GDL fiction dropped as well

Where is it? I can't find it.

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« Reply #944 on: 06 November 2021, 10:32:41 »
https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/battletech-no-dust-no-wear

It’s the first item under the battletech section of the store

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« Reply #945 on: 06 November 2021, 10:46:13 »
https://store.catalystgamelabs.com/collections/battletech/products/battletech-no-dust-no-wear

It’s the first item under the battletech section of the store

Shoot, you meant ELH and not GDL.

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« Reply #946 on: 06 November 2021, 10:50:48 »
Sigh. Damn typos. Apologies for getting people’s hopes up only to crush them into dust

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« Reply #947 on: 06 November 2021, 11:44:28 »
Sigh. Damn typos. Apologies for getting people’s hopes up only to crush them into dust

No Dust, No Wear is still a really good book. And Jason liked my story (Failings in Teaching) so much, he linked the two. It's only a minor link, but it is there and I love it.  :smitten:
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« Reply #948 on: 06 November 2021, 12:34:24 »
Waiting for the PoD on the ELH stuff

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« Reply #949 on: 06 November 2021, 12:44:34 »
Waiting for the PoD on the ELH stuff

That's some time next year, then. ;)
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« Reply #950 on: 06 November 2021, 13:06:37 »
Yeah I figured the last piece wasn’t dropping until around Christmas

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« Reply #951 on: 06 November 2021, 14:11:50 »
Waiting for the PoD on the ELH stuff

Same: I really want to read them all now…. But I can’t justify spending for all the EPIB’s when I KNOW a DTF is coming soon.

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« Reply #952 on: 06 November 2021, 16:15:05 »
No Dust, No Wear is still a really good book. And Jason liked my story (Failings in Teaching) so much, he linked the two. It's only a minor link, but it is there and I love it.  :smitten:

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« Reply #953 on: 06 November 2021, 16:46:01 »
My only complaint about No Dust, No Wear is that it ended. I really enjoyed seeing that part of history that we only have gotten just mentions of in sourcebooks. I would love to see more of the aftermath and maybe eventually their sort of exodus from Clan space.

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« Reply #954 on: 06 November 2021, 17:10:47 »
When POD comes up, among the top 10 books everyone asks for are the FASA House sourcebooks, but we'd be rebuilding them essentially from scratch, down to the level of probably re-typing them or heavily, heavily proofing an OCR scan.

And I'm assuming that's even before the financial third rail of having to commission a bunch of new artwork to replace the Unseen 'mechs in 'em rears its ugly head...

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« Reply #955 on: 06 November 2021, 17:22:39 »
And I'm assuming that's even before the financial third rail of having to commission a bunch of new artwork to replace the Unseen 'mechs in 'em rears its ugly head...

That's the crux of it. The text rebuild and re-layout are possible, just an inadvisable use of a major amount of time. The artwork problem may not be solvable for a price that makes the book worth doing at all--it'd be something management would have to run numbers on. But to be clear, it's on no one's radar right now.
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« Reply #956 on: 06 November 2021, 17:41:59 »
Fixed costs on smaller runs making them unfeasible, even if the files are were good to go? Because I wouldn't expect even shattered fortress to be its original price.

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« Reply #957 on: 06 November 2021, 19:29:41 »
Aw hell.

We'll work on this today. Stay tuned.

Godspeed you!  I will try to download the first copy of it if possible.
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« Reply #958 on: 06 November 2021, 21:12:26 »
My only complaint about No Dust, No Wear is that it ended. I really enjoyed seeing that part of history that we only have gotten just mentions of in sourcebooks. I would love to see more of the aftermath and maybe eventually their sort of exodus from Clan space.

Thank you, my friend. :-)  My 1st draft was 18K, but I had to take it down to 10K for the anthology- I loved this setting so much, I didn't want it to end, either!  :)

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« Reply #959 on: 07 November 2021, 01:29:54 »
Godspeed you!  I will try to download the first copy of it if possible.

I'll take the second.

 

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