Mercenaries Kickstarter Discussion 6: the 1st 3rd Star League conversation

[ActionButler]

Good catch! Moved it back to where it belongs.

[Tallgiraffe]

So, a few points on the Urbie LAM.

• It’s 100% non-canon.
• It’s real and a joke.
• I hear you, those of you that don’t like it or raise issues with it. I fought that fight. The meme won. We’re in the minority. That’s ok.
• The Urbie salvage box SOLD like crazy. So did the lance pack. So did the company pack. Let’s not forget the plushie. You don’t have to like it. But any money towards BattleTech means more money toward things we do want.
• This concept was first released during the Clan Invasion KS on April Fools, and there was an overwhelming demand for this mini to be made.
• Side note, this is not a sign that LAMs are on the way. There was never a “Phoenix Hawk vs. Urbie” LAM question.

Personally just tired of beating the dead horse that is the urbanmech. If it makes you money, good. Still not happy about getting something like this. Guys can throw together a bug mech lance box and probably sell it like crazy, but we gotta buy the big boxes to get Locusts still.
 
Seriously give us a bug mech box to feed my light mech hunger. I wish to use them like cereal.

[RifleMech]

There's going to be an UrbanMech LAM? SQUEEEEEE!!!!!!!   Now I just need money. 

Will it have art, stats, and fluff to go with it?

[ColBosch]

There's going to be an UrbanMech LAM? SQUEEEEEE!!!!!!!   Now I just need money. 

Will it have art, stats, and fluff to go with it?

The art was done during the Mercenaries campaign, based on the Macross/Robotech Roy Fokker (skull and bones) design. Stats and fluff will be non-canon.

[RifleMech]

The art was done during the Mercenaries campaign, based on the Macross/Robotech Roy Fokker (skull and bones) design. Stats and fluff will be non-canon.

Cool. I did see one set of art a while ago but I don't know if it's the same one or not.

That's okay. Official but not canon is better than none.

[jimdigris]

I thought that all discussion of LAMs was being moved to the LAM thread.

[ActionButler]

Quick clarification, general discussion about LAMs should be contained to the LAM thread. LAMs, not unreasonably, tend to consume all of the oxygen in the room when people really get rolling on them. That’s not what this thread is for.

Since the Urbie LAM is specific to the Kickstarter, though, discussing that little guy here (like how it managed to get through the design process without adding a little propeller to the top of its head) is fine for now.

[DarkISI]

Damn, now I will need someone to print me a propeller for it, so I can glue it to its head.

[Maingunnery]

Since the Urbie LAM is specific to the Kickstarter, though, discussing that little guy here (like how it managed to get through the design process without adding a little propeller to the top of its head) is fine for now.

Is it? Will it be added to the Kickstarter deliveries?

[ActionButler]

Not a clue. It was introduced in a pile of Kickstarter-related stuff, though.

EDIT: Rereading Ray’s previous request to remove the LAM stuff, no, it will not be a part of the Kickstarter. That being said, we were not specifically asked to peel that part of the conversation off from this thread.

DOUBLE EDIT: Since I’m already on a roll, for those unfamiliar with the process, it’s actually a very rare thing for the mods to get specific requests/instructions from management. When those situations do arise, it’s mostly a game of doing our best to interpret the instructions. Following from this example, if Ray (or Cubby or whoever) also wants the Urbie LAM stuff moved, they’ll reach out to us and make the ask. Easy peasy.

[Weirdo]

(Pictures the High Council art from Handbook Kurita, with Ray silent with steepled fingers while admins and mods yell)

[Broken_Metal_Dreaming]

*Propeller hats sold seperately

[Cyc]

oh dear. Kickstarter Update #80 - Apparently the physical version of BattleTech: Encounters was shipped out by the distributor to Barnes & Noble by mistake and is already appearing on shelves. Given how important relationship is with B&N and how hard it would be to actually get it pulled from all stores CGL is accepting this, but they won't be sending remaining stock to other retailers, the CGL store or backers early but when the Kickstarter fulfils as originally intended.

[Jal Phoenix]

oh dear. Kickstarter Update #80 - Apparently the physical version of BattleTech: Encounters was shipped out by the distributor to Barnes & Noble by mistake and is already appearing on shelves. Given how important relationship is with B&N and how hard it would be to actually get it pulled from all stores CGL is accepting this, but they won't be sending remaining stock to other retailers, the CGL store or backers.

Nowhere in the announcement does it say that they won't be releasing it to the CGL store, other retailers or backers. In fact, the opposite. Don't go spreading false information.

However, we have made the decision that Catalyst will still not yet release via our store until after fulfillment. This may hurt our overall sales, as buyers seek it out at B&N, but it is important to us to honor our commitment to our backers as much as we are able.  All backers will still receive their games as promised when we fulfill (we are still on track for June as of now).

[Cyc]

Nowhere in the announcement does it say that they won't be releasing it to the CGL store, other retailers or backers. In fact, the opposite. Don't go spreading false information.

I will edit to make it clear they are not doing that NOW.

[Greatclub]

Hopefully any flack is directed at the party who deserves it, the distributor.

No-win for CGL, sucks. Admittedly it wasn't a big draw for me anyway.


Do we know how close the GDL pack is from general release?

[Aresneo]

Do we know how close the GDL pack is from general release?

The Exclusivity agreement with Barnes and Nobles ended last month, so its whenever a production run makes it through distribution. I'd be willing to bet that it starts showing up at other retailers around the same time the Star League Command Lance comes out.

[DarkSpade]

Odd that they jumped so hard at a dice game.  I think they're missing the point on why the Battletech stuff sold so well.  I hope this sells well enough that doesn't sour them on the brand. If it's anything like that one Shadowrun dice game, I don't expect much.

[SteelRaven]

Dice games sell and while I didn't play it and still have no interest in it, the BT CCG did well back in the day and still has a following. Another company actively looking for more BT products to sell us good regardless.

[ActionButler]

Odd that they jumped so hard at a dice game.

Dice games are insanely popular right now thanks to Dice Throne, and small games are insanely popular right now thanks to the Tiny Epic franchise. Something like Encounters is right up B&N’s proverbial alley.

[ColBosch]

Dice games are insanely popular right now thanks to Dice Throne, and small games are insanely popular right now thanks to the Tiny Epic franchise. Something like Encounters is right up B&N’s proverbial alley.

It's also a way to make money by selling to people who are uninterested in complicated wargames.

[shivanwurm]

Lot of photos coming out from Kerensky Con of the KS samples.

[shivanwurm]

Sommerset box

[shivanwurm]

ELH faction die

[shivanwurm]

Bag of chevron dice

[Pat Payne]

Sommerset box

The Axman and Mauler? <chef's kiss> They really hit it out of the park on the redesign. Again. The Mauler has never looked better and I hope finally gets its time to shine.

The Hatamoto-chi? Not so much. I may be in the minority on this, but I really thought it was just getting silly when beginning in the '90s someone decided that every other Kurita 'mech had to be strongly modelled after samurai armor, with this one as patient zero for that particular epidemic. This just leans in to  that even more than the (actually quite reasonable) original, and it looks like "stuntman in tokusatsu mecha costume out of Japanese Spiderman" rather than a futuristic war machine.

[shivanwurm]

Eeee

[Greatclub]

Dice games sell and while I didn't play it and still have no interest in it, the BT CCG did well back in the day and still has a following. Another company actively looking for more BT products to sell us good regardless.

yeah, the CCG was more popular than magic for a brief while.

[Wolf72]

ooh Strikers box looks nice!

[MoneyLovinOgre4Hire]

The Axman and Mauler? <chef's kiss> They really hit it out of the park on the redesign. Again. The Mauler has never looked better and I hope finally gets its time to shine.

The Hatamoto-chi? Not so much. I may be in the minority on this, but I really thought it was just getting silly when beginning in the '90s someone decided that every other Kurita 'mech had to be strongly modelled after samurai armor, with this one as patient zero for that particular epidemic. This just leans in to  that even more than the (actually quite reasonable) original, and it looks like "stuntman in tokusatsu mecha costume out of Japanese Spiderman" rather than a futuristic war machine.

My introduction to the Hat was through the cover art of Hearts of Chaos and I concur.  The modern take on the mech looks better, but it was very silly.