The Rasalhague Dominion: Friend of a Friend (but not your Friend)

[ActionButler]

(This of course includes the music from the animated Transformers movie naturally).

Any army that doesn't include that in its playlist is terrible and clearly destined for failure.

[marauder648]

Any army that doesn't include that in its playlist is terrible and clearly destined for failure.

Great now you've got me thinking about what the Clan's playlists were..


The Jags would have been INCREDIBLY ANGRY growly Norse/Finnish death metal full of grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrowling.

[Foxx Ital]

I could see the Valkyrie clusters rocking out to "Dynamite Explosion"

[rebs]

Any army that doesn't include that in its playlist is terrible and clearly destined for failure.

Thinking like this surely led to Toto doing the soundtrack for Lynch's version of Dune.  To this day while watching that movie (on the rare occasion), every time I hear the classic "foreboding" metal guitar droning F sharp to E shift (or the battle time diddy in G), I say out loud "#^$%#* Toto!".

Too bad Iron Maiden couldn't have done the soundtrack to that. 

This post had a point, but it's not very Ghost Bearly.  We're drifting...Oh yeah!  Toto would be a terrible name for a Ghost Bear, were Ghost Bears real animals.  That ties it in kind of.

[Esedemicus]

I played battletech before the clans appeared, when they appeared I liked them and I felt specially attracted to the Ghost Bears even though they were the less developed invading clan those days

Welcome to the Clan. I'm always interested in asking this of people who have just found the Ghost Bears (or are new to the forums and expressing their allegiance), what drew you towards Clan Ghost Bear?

[Zeruel]

welcome trothkin :)

[marauder648]

Aye welcome to the Den trothkin!

[ActionButler]

Alright ladies and gentlebears, I need a new galaxy. 

I just finished up on my Alpha star this weekend.  I have a handful of extra omnis sitting around, but most of my spare mechs are definitely second-line equipment (think Supernova, Ursus, Grizzly, Kodiak, Piranha).  The era I am aiming for is somewhere around Late-Invasion/Early-Civil War.  Right now, I have narrowed the options down to either Theta, or Tau.  Theta has the advantage of being really different from the blue/grey of Alpha, but has the disadvantage of being primarily white.  Tau has the advantage of not being primarily white, but has the disadvantage of looking an awful lot like Alpha (blue/grey camo on the arms and legs).  Tau also has the advantage of being relatively well-liked by the citizens of the OZ, so... that's something, too.  Some general arctic camo is also an option, I suppose, but may or may not look a lot like the Alpha Galaxy scheme AND require a lot of white paint. 

Anyway, suggestions are very welcome.  These won't get painted until I finish with the rest of my Spheroid lances, but I like taking a long time to plan out supplies and such. 

Cheers!

[MidfieldMarauder]

Alright ladies and gentlebears, I need a new galaxy. 

I just finished up on my Alpha star this weekend.  I have a handful of extra omnis sitting around, but most of my spare mechs are definitely second-line equipment (think Supernova, Ursus, Grizzly, Kodiak, Piranha).  The era I am aiming for is somewhere around Late-Invasion/Early-Civil War.  Right now, I have narrowed the options down to either Theta, or Tau.  Theta has the advantage of being really different from the blue/grey of Alpha, but has the disadvantage of being primarily white.  Tau has the advantage of not being primarily white, but has the disadvantage of looking an awful lot like Alpha (blue/grey camo on the arms and legs).  Tau also has the advantage of being relatively well-liked by the citizens of the OZ, so... that's something, too.  Some general arctic camo is also an option, I suppose, but may or may not look a lot like the Alpha Galaxy scheme AND require a lot of white paint. 

Anyway, suggestions are very welcome.  These won't get painted until I finish with the rest of my Spheroid lances, but I like taking a long time to plan out supplies and such. 

Cheers!

If you're looking at Tau Galaxy, your available `Mechs may be a good fit for the 1st Bear Regulars in that time frame.

[ActionButler]

Actually, the 1st Regulars were exactly who I had in mind if I opted for Tau Galaxy.  I suppose I could use a different shade of grey for the camo on the arms and legs to keep the scheme from looking too similar to Alpha.

[Jellico]

The top three Clans in 3050 were the Wolves, Falcons, and Jaguars. The Bear's position as an Invader was due to its willingness to bid low where Clans like the Adders refused to play at all.

Honestly I don't know who would be second tier other than the Bears and Vipers. Eg I am not sure that the Adders belong because their big boost seems to coincide with absorbing the Burrocks.

[Zeruel]

hey Jell, think you posted that response in the wrong thread? looks more like it was responding to Weaponx in the Clan Builder thread (though maybe you two might want to bring it here to not derail that one)

[WeaponX]

The top three Clans in 3050 were the Wolves, Falcons, and Jaguars. The Bear's position as an Invader was due to its willingness to bid low where Clans like the Adders refused to play at all.

My opinion is that anyone who made it to the Invasion, even the "reserve Clans" belong to the "first-tier" of the Clans, granted the Bears may be in the lower end of "first-tiers" if you compare them to the "top three", but if you expand it to "top-four", you'd definately have to include the Bears in there.

Honestly I don't know who would be second tier other than the Bears and Vipers. Eg I am not sure that the Adders belong because their big boost seems to coincide with absorbing the Burrocks.

There's the problem, how many "tiers" are there? And how many Clans to a tier?  As I said previously I believe that anyone who made it to the Invasion (even the reservists) deserve to be called first-tier Clans.  The Bears may have gotten in by bidding low, but that's also how the Falcons and Jaguars got their place.  The fact that even while bidding so low those Clans still managed to carve out as sizable chunk of the Inner Sphere shows that they had something to back up their low bid.  If you put someone who wasn't already a reserve Invasion Clan like say the Cloud Cobras or Blood Spirits in place of the Bears, I don't think they'd have done as well.  Even if you put the Adders in their place, I don't think they'd have done as well, since I think that the Adders were the epitome of a second-tier Clan up until the big boys went away and gave them some room to grow into a low end first-tier Clan similar to the Bears, and that was only really possible because of the almost neat absorption of Clan Burrock, which was itself a pretty strong second-tier Clan as well.

[Zeruel]

If you put someone who wasn't already a reserve Invasion Clan like say the Cloud Cobras or Blood Spirits in place of the Bears, I don't think they'd have done as well.

well let's be honest, have a different Clan in place of the Bears, they would have done the same performance to meet the requirements of the story ;)

but more seriously, while having "tiers" of Clans is a fairly arbitrary thing, i never pegged the Bears as being in the same class as the Wolves, Falcons and Jags
what they had going for them was having a large touman and their cautious approach, rather than highly skilled warriors, allowed them to usually be successful in combat

[Foxx Ital]

Nobody blackmails the ghostbears!!!!! ....we didn't need iC3 anyway  ;D

[marauder648]

Nobody blackmails the ghostbears!!!!! ....we didn't need iC3 anyway  ;D

*pounds his fist against the table yelling an agreement before making sure the Freeborns get as much of it as possible and are told 'go nuts'*

[WeaponX]

Nobody blackmails the ghostbears!!!!! ....we didn't need iC3 anyway  ;D

The only tragedy to come from the whole Beowulf IIC-PR experiment was not what the Bears did with it, since under Clan customs and traditions its perfectly OK to wipe out dark caste members in the most efficient way possible, but that the Bears caved to outside pressure and gave up their forays into incorporating C3i's into their way of fighting.  The Bears might still be capable of building the tech, but they'd have lost years of potential experience on the best way to properly utilize C3i's in the event that they ever brought it back into their equipment list at a later date.

[Atlas3060]

Nobody blackmails the ghostbears!!!!! ....we didn't need iC3 anyway  ;D

C3i, isn't that where our Elementals just hold the enemy Mech while ours pounds it into the ground?

[Foxx Ital]

C3i, isn't that where our Elementals just hold the enemy Mech while ours pounds it into the ground?

I thought it was where Kobold IIC's tag the Surat out of someone while the huey's pound it back to the golden ages.

[SteveRestless]

I thought it was where Kobold IIC's tag the Surat out of someone while the huey's pound it back to the golden ages.

Sibkid Tested, Ghost Bear Approved.

[Atlas3060]

I thought it was where Kobold IIC's tag the Surat out of someone while the huey's pound it back to the golden ages.

The Khans see wisdom in this plan.
It is a solid plan.

[Foxx Ital]

When the Republic takes away your iC3 and gives you lemons...you put stealth on stuff and squirt lemonaid in their eyes  #P

[David CGB]

When the Republic takes away your iC3 and gives you lemons...you put stealth on stuff and squirt lemonaid in their eyes  #P

and then take away better toys from someone else....

[GBscientist]

I'm confused.  What is this Beowulf IIC-PR that you speak of?  Who pressured the Bears to abandon C3i research?

[Zeruel]

I know there's an Ursus-PR that has C3i...

[Fletch]

Who pressured the Bears to abandon C3i research?

The Republic

[Jaim Magnus]

The Republic

Blasted interfering Spheroids.

[Zeruel]

well in fairness, the game has to stay balanced somehow, yea?
C3 and C3i are one of the advantages the IS has over the Clans

[Jellico]

They way we spread ECM around the Record Sheets...

[WarGod]

They way we spread ECM around the Record Sheets...

we can't have C3 then nobody can.  now onto bigger ECMS