Naval Pictures VI: A New Enterprise

[DaveMac]

Does anyone know of a good online resource for someone looking to paint Royal Navy warships, specifically as they looked in the WWII Mediterranean?

This any use matey?

http://www.armouredcarriers.com/uss-robin-hms-victorious

[ANS Kamas P81]

A future "Storm" class carrier from the Russians...which probably isn't going to happen considering Kuznetsov's in worse shape than we thought before.  In addition to having half her boilers replaced and the others refurbished, patching the hole in the flight deck, and upgrades to literally everything else...it turns out that she doesn't have propellers.  All the props were removed while she was in drydock, and once that went to the bottom...

They've got one drydock left, but it's in the North Pacific.  Which means they'd have to TOW the poor thing in a reenactment of the Voyage of the Damned, only passing through Tsushima and continuing on...  Scrapping it is becoming more and more popular, according to Popular Mechanics quoting Izvestia.

That Storm class, though, that's a pretty one.

[Fat Guy]

Is it supposed to have catapults? They had a pretty poor experience with only the ski jump in Syria (most of the air wing wound up flying out of a Syrian airbase to get useful range and payload).

[Fat Guy]

Even more wishful thinking, the planes are Su-57s! Another doomed program.   ;D

[DoctorMonkey]

HMS Victorious pretending to be USS Robin in 1943 although the commentary says the colour scheme may be a bit suspect


I am really enjoying [size=78%]http://www.armouredcarriers.com/[/size]

[Daryk]

Wait... the V's point in the OPPOSITE direction the planes are flying??

[Wrangler]

The Economy for Russia has to improve to justify a new nuclear carrier. Which i think their sticking to submarines at this point.

[chanman]

A future "Storm" class carrier from the Russians...which probably isn't going to happen considering Kuznetsov's in worse shape than we thought before.  In addition to having half her boilers replaced and the others refurbished, patching the hole in the flight deck, and upgrades to literally everything else...it turns out that she doesn't have propellers.  All the props were removed while she was in drydock, and once that went to the bottom...

They've got one drydock left, but it's in the North Pacific.  Which means they'd have to TOW the poor thing in a reenactment of the Voyage of the Damned, only passing through Tsushima and continuing on...  Scrapping it is becoming more and more popular, according to Popular Mechanics quoting Izvestia.

That Storm class, though, that's a pretty one.

Towing large ships is a pretty fraught exercise. Lots of cases of them foundering or breaking the tow line; especially in rough seas. And there's absolutely none of that in the North Pacific!

[Weirdo]

HMS Victorious pretending to be USS Robin in 1943 although the commentary says the colour scheme may be a bit suspect


I am really enjoying [size=78%]http://www.armouredcarriers.com/[/size]

Yeah, I love that site. Pretty sure that's not the paint scheme I'm seeking though, since it stems from her Pacific service. They seemed to repaint these things every time they entered a new zip code.

[ANS Kamas P81]

Towing large ships is a pretty fraught exercise. Lots of cases of them foundering or breaking the tow line; especially in rough seas. And there's absolutely none of that in the North Pacific!

Oh forget the North Pacific.  She's in Kola Bay.  And because she can't do it under her own power, is unable to transit the Suez.

You're talking about a tow operation that starts east of Finland, swings around Sweden into the North Sea, winds past the G-I-UK line into NORLANT unless they want to cut back and parade their crippled ship past London, then south past the mouth of the Med, down Africa, all the way around the Cape of Good Hope, across the IO or the Arabian Sea, around Malaysia at the shortest into the South China Sea, then up through the Sea of Japan, and all the way past Vladivostok to Chazhma Bay.

Y'know, where the Soviets blew up a submarine's reactor in a refueling accident back in '85.  Mostly Cobalt-60 and Cesium-137, but it's still putting out 20-40mR/h these days.

Did I mention they'd be towing it there?

[Elmoth]

Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a new one that salvaging the wrecked one? For what you are saying it is an exercise in madness to try to bring the dry dock around half the globe. Either build a new ship or a new dry dock

[ANS Kamas P81]

They kinda tried that buying a pair of Mistrals off the French...that didn't turn out well.  (Unless you're Egyptian)

[Wrangler]

Speaking of Aircraft Carriers and pictures of warships.  :D

The Italian Carrier, Cavour.


The even older, incomplete Aircraft Carrier, Aquila.

[JadeHellbringer]

The alternative for Special K is a tow north of Siberia- with the receding polar ice, that's at least feasible now in the warmer seasons. Still dangerous, but might be easier than hauling her all the way around.

...that said, yeah, with the issues she's had in terms of maintenance, damage, and ineffectiveness (as previously noted, her planes were more useful from land bases than from the ship), it might nto be a bad idea to either scrap her or offer her 'as-is' to anyone interested. Bring your own tugboat, no lowballers, we know what we're selling, no trades. ;)

(And yes, Su-57 is a lovely airplane that makes the F-35 program look like smooth sailing. I'd be surprised if they ever go into large-scale production at this point.)

[marauder648]

The alternative for Special K is a tow north of Siberia- with the receding polar ice, that's at least feasible now in the warmer seasons. Still dangerous, but might be easier than hauling her all the way around.

...that said, yeah, with the issues she's had in terms of maintenance, damage, and ineffectiveness (as previously noted, her planes were more useful from land bases than from the ship), it might nto be a bad idea to either scrap her or offer her 'as-is' to anyone interested. Bring your own tugboat, no lowballers, we know what we're selling, no trades. ;)

(And yes, Su-57 is a lovely airplane that makes the F-35 program look like smooth sailing. I'd be surprised if they ever go into large-scale production at this point.)

Blimey, I had no idea that the Special K was in such a state. Scrapping the Special K at this point's basically the easier option, put the poor thing out of her misery and either use her as the target of a sinkex, or scrap her.

Also whats up with the SU-57 program?

and you folks might find this interesting its about the latest Russian SSBN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKNqVOHs71Q

[Weirdo]

SINKEX could be a good idea. Without going into Rule 4, I'm sure there's a LOT of powers that would pay good money to know exactly what kind of firepower it takes to sink a modern carrier. See if a bunch of them would go in for a group buy or something.

[JadeHellbringer]

SINKEX could be a good idea. Without going into Rule 4, I'm sure there's a LOT of powers that would pay good money to know exactly what kind of firepower it takes to sink a modern carrier. See if a bunch of them would go in for a group buy or something.

Classified report leaked to the public: "To sink modern carrier: 1) Drop crane on deck. 2) Watch."

[Weirdo]

Classified report leaked to the public: "To sink modern carrier: 1) Drop crane on deck. 2) Watch."

Is new ultimate weapon!

[Colt Ward]

Now for some different ships . . .

[Weirdo]

The hell is that?!?

[Sabelkatten]

Game of Thrones?

[Colt Ward]

Lol, we know what you do NOT watch . . .

Yeah, she is called the Silence . . .

[kato]

The hell is that?!?

Game of Thrones.

[glitterboy2098]

please remember that it is no-spoilers outside the dedicated threads for them?

[Wrangler]

The US Carrier Fleet once apon a time..


USS Eisenhower, George H.W. Bush, Enterprise, and Abraham Lincoln. Along with I think is USS Wasp LHD-1 in the backdrop with a Auxiliary ship.

[Colt Ward]

My picture is a previous season clip off shore of Casterly Rock- so 2 years old?

How old is that shot?

[worktroll]

Also whats up with the SU-57 program?

Cancelled. Or, in Moscow's words, too good for this world:

“The Su-57 is considered to be one of the best aircraft produced in the world. Consequently, it does not make sense to speed up work on mass-producing the fifth-generation aircraft.”

Although the Indians pulling out of a joint project, lack of interested external buyers, and state of the Russian economy may have had more to do with it.

W.

[Colt Ward]

The Indians pulled out of the light attack craft project?

[marauder648]

The Indians pulled out of the light attack craft project?

After all the shenanigans that happened with the refitted Kiev they got done in Russia, I can't say I don't blame them.

[I am Belch II]

My picture is a previous season clip off shore of Casterly Rock- so 2 years old?

How old is that shot?

Would love to see more updated shot with the big Updated Scorpions on the hull of the ships.